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Old 04-09-2019, 07:52 PM
 
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And it make sense from a societal standpoint:
Actually it makes no sense.

In the past, employers would hire new people who had no experience and train them. Education was crappy in the past and nothing's changed. So employers took action. Today's employers want OTHER employers to train their employees.

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As deliberate action has degraded the value of work itself,
We have people devaluing work and also devaluing workers. It is all part of a dehumanizing philosophy that has infected society designed to devalue people and make it easy to push really evil agendas.

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and things have been explicitly restructured so as to provide fewer and fewer opportunities to "ride the top of the wave", society rewards fewer and fewer people for having gained the credentials necessary to do so, and rewards those who do "ride the top of the wave" less since there is more supply and lower demand for workers with those credentials.
And what we have are employers whining loudly that there is a talent shortage. Talent responds by getting the training and education the employers are looking for. Then the employers reject those people for not having experience.

This is like someone who's huge building is on fire, complaining about the shortage of firefighters. A fire truck rolls up, and the firefighters say "We heard your cry for help. We just graduated yesterday from the fire academy at our own expense, and paid for this fire truck out of our own pocket." The person whose building is on fire then says "I refuse to hire you because you have no experience."

The catch-22 makes no logical, rational or reasonable sense.

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Clearly, one side's big changes are helping many on both sides, while the other side's big changes aren't.
Neither side is helping ordinary people. Both the R and D half of the one party system seek to enrich cronies at everyone else's expense.

A politician has a constituent with $0 in campaign contributions, and a crony who donated a nice chunk of cash to the politician's coffers. Who has the more persuasive case? The only difference between a campaign contribution and a bribe is legality, and the politicians determined that.
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Old 04-09-2019, 07:58 PM
 
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Is that would you do? Do you go into a store to buy items overpriced to keep the workers the employer pays more because he so highly values them? No, you don't, and neither does a business because it needs to stay in business.
What happens is that we go to a store that has overpriced goods. Employees who do all the work and bring the value get paid cheaply while the CEO sits on his/her butt and collects a big paycheck because he cut back on their wages. Subtract from the poor/middle class and add to the rich.

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You want to be more highly valued, then offer up something of higher value.
People do this all the time. They reskill, get new education, certifications, and skills - and get rejected for not having experience. They won't be more highly valued.
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Old 04-10-2019, 02:36 AM
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You want to be more highly valued, then offer up something of higher value.
You keep on replying to comments but you're evidently not reading or understanding them. Is that how your logic works? Just ignore what you don't like so all that you see is what you want to see?


Let's give you a second chance to read and understand what you're replying to:

If everyone was "improved" society would still have the same break-down of jobs by level; would still have the same gap between inflation and wage growth, etc. - basically the only thing that that what you are suggesting would change is that it would cause underemployment to skyrocket.

Stop ignoring the parts you don't like and adjust your perspective in consideration of them. Otherwise, you're just spewing vapid sound bites of no consequence.
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