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Old 04-11-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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Well there are a lot of non-felons who are homeless and looking for work too. I hope you don't think felons are more deserving Ö
Not more deserving but it makes sense to get them employed. It's been proven that the criminals least likely to recidivate are those with a job.
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Old 04-11-2019, 02:41 PM
 
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Not more deserving but it makes sense to get them employed. It's been proven that the criminals least likely to recidivate are those with a job.
Well I don't feel bad for felons who can't get jobs. They should have thought about that before they committed the crime. You reap what you sow.
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Old 04-11-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Central Mass
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and I don't see why you would run a background check on a job applicant unless a criminal conviction is relevant to the position
+1 I've never had a background check for a job. But for my license and AIA membership, I have to disclose anything beyond a speeding ticket.

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The unwillingness to consider felons for jobs has contributed to homelessness and recidivism.
The fundamental political question - is our criminal justice system for retribution or rehabilitation
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Old 04-11-2019, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Central Mass
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Well I don't feel bad for felons who can't get jobs. They should have thought about that before they committed the crime. You reap what you sow.
Here's a hypothetical for you.

Say you are out running. You really, really have to pee, so you go into the bushes. Unbeknownst to you, there is an elementary school around the corner. The cop that passes by at just that moment is having a rough day. The prosecutor throws the book at you. Your a felon who is also a sex offender.
Now you should never work again? Just because you didn't want to pee your pants?
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Old 04-11-2019, 03:14 PM
 
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This one is tough, especially involve in stealing from employer. He might still be able to find one, but is going to be super tough.
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Old 04-11-2019, 03:15 PM
 
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Here's a hypothetical for you.

Say you are out running. You really, really have to pee, so you go into the bushes. Unbeknownst to you, there is an elementary school around the corner. The cop that passes by at just that moment is having a rough day. The prosecutor throws the book at you. Your a felon who is also a sex offender.
Now you should never work again? Just because you didn't want to pee your pants?
"Peeing in your pants is cool … everyone my age pees their pants, it's the coolest"


LOL, I'm a female. I don't pee in the bushes. I get what you're saying but peeing in bushes is a ticketable offense. Don't do it. How about that? It's the same reason I don't speed or blow through stop signs. I don't need unnecessary sh*t on my record.
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Old 04-11-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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hypo: peeing in pants has no internet searchable record
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Old 04-12-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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Attorneys hire convicted felons all the time to work for them. Perhaps not these big corporate law firms but many small law offices and independent attorneys do hire convicted felons. Nobody would know or even ask about the criminal record of who works for them.


My husband is an attorney with his own small firm and they absolutely background check every employee and would not hire anyone with a criminal record unless it was traffic violations maybe. But stealing from an employer would be a no go.
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Old 04-12-2019, 08:05 PM
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Location: Texas
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Well I don't feel bad for felons who can't get jobs. They should have thought about that before they committed the crime. You reap what you sow.
You don't have to feel sorry for felons, but you should feel sorry for their children and families who did not choose to commit any crime. I know a six-year old girl who sleeps most nights in a truck because her dad (convicted felon) can't get a job. Him being in prison for a couple of years was not her choice. Him being convicted of a felony was not her choice. He is willing and able to work now and that's what should be considered. He was also a non-violent offender.
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Old 04-13-2019, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Well I don't feel bad for felons who can't get jobs. They should have thought about that before they committed the crime. You reap what you sow.
Perhaps his only hope may be Politics!
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