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Old 04-16-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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Well, it certainly was hard work to get himself to that position where he could do that. A lot of people look at the end of the journey and neglect what it took to get them there.
And most of us have no desire to achieve that end. And most of his employees will never be in his position no matter how many hours they work. Yes I have worked 70 to 84 hour weeks both for myself and for others. Just not worth it for me.
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Old 04-16-2019, 03:45 PM
 
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I'm not defending this guy's philosophy, but I think it's often underestimated how much time a CEO or executive puts into the company. They might not be spending 12 hours hammering out code or spreadsheets, but they spend a lot of time in meetings, giving presentations, schmoozing for business, and promoting the brand on behalf of the company and shareholders. Say what you want, but it's an exhausting lifestyle. Note that I consider it a lifestyle, not just a job. Sure, the pay can afford you many comforts and influence in life. But there's absolutely no way I'd want to do it.
Yes, I think that you are right. But when you reach that level and have all that money, you can retire anytime and live comfortably. You don't have the pressure that the ordinary middle class Joe or Jane faces. To put in all that overtime but live on a limited paycheck, shaking in your boots if you get fired, not sure if you can get another job.

But for these billionaires and multi-millionaires, if anything goes wrong, they can just walk away. It's not like they are going to be homeless or starve to death. That makes working those hours more pleasurable, since their personal lives are set.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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I don't mind working a lot of hours if I'm getting time and a half over 40.
But working over 40 hrs for free? Stick that where the sun don't shine...
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Old 04-17-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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When I worked down in Antarctica for a contractor, we worked 6 days a week, 9 hour days, Monday through Saturday, so 54-hour weeks. We still had to pay US taxes, federal and state (unless your permanent mailing address was in a state with no state income tax), since the US Supreme Court ruled, nobody "owns" Antarctica and it's therefore not a foreign country, like say US citizens working in Europe, Asia, Africa, etc. But ironically, the US Department of Labor says, since you are not working in the United States, overtime laws/rules don't pertain to us, so no time and a half after 40 hours.

We do get a completion bonus, once you finish your contract and depending on how many seasons of "ice time" you have, you can get up to a 20% bonus, which is nice. Lots of my coworkers wished it was an either or situation, like allow us to not have to pay federal income tax but we get no OT pay over 40 hours or we pay federal income tax but we get OT pay over 40 hours. The one good thing about working in Antarctica, is there's not that much to spend your money on, except for alcohol!
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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When I worked down in Antarctica for a contractor, we worked 6 days a week, 9 hour days, Monday through Saturday, so 54-hour weeks. We still had to pay US taxes, federal and state (unless your permanent mailing address was in a state with no state income tax), since the US Supreme Court ruled, nobody "owns" Antarctica and it's therefore not a foreign country, like say US citizens working in Europe, Asia, Africa, etc. But ironically, the US Department of Labor says, since you are not working in the United States, overtime laws/rules don't pertain to us, so no time and a half after 40 hours.

We do get a completion bonus, once you finish your contract and depending on how many seasons of "ice time" you have, you can get up to a 20% bonus, which is nice. Lots of my coworkers wished it was an either or situation, like allow us to not have to pay federal income tax but we get no OT pay over 40 hours or we pay federal income tax but we get OT pay over 40 hours. The one good thing about working in Antarctica, is there's not that much to spend your money on, except for alcohol!
Funny how it's always alcohol that manages to get to the remotest corners of the earth...
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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996= indentured servant.
Better be it after 7 hr work day,and double ot on weekends.
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Old 04-17-2019, 03:07 PM
 
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When I worked down in Antarctica for a contractor, we worked 6 days a week, 9 hour days, Monday through Saturday, so 54-hour weeks. We still had to pay US taxes, federal and state (unless your permanent mailing address was in a state with no state income tax), since the US Supreme Court ruled, nobody "owns" Antarctica and it's therefore not a foreign country, like say US citizens working in Europe, Asia, Africa, etc. But ironically, the US Department of Labor says, since you are not working in the United States, overtime laws/rules don't pertain to us, so no time and a half after 40 hours.

We do get a completion bonus, once you finish your contract and depending on how many seasons of "ice time" you have, you can get up to a 20% bonus, which is nice. Lots of my coworkers wished it was an either or situation, like allow us to not have to pay federal income tax but we get no OT pay over 40 hours or we pay federal income tax but we get OT pay over 40 hours. The one good thing about working in Antarctica, is there's not that much to spend your money on, except for alcohol!
They have liquor stores in Antartica?
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Old 04-17-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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They have liquor stores in Antartica?
More like a "gift shop/store" that sells souvenirs (T-shirts, sweatshirts, hats, stickers, patches, etc.), some toiletries (toothpaste, shampoo, floss, etc.) and then alcohol as well include, beer, wine and hard liquor.

My first winter at Palmer Station (the smallest of the 3 US stations) the summer Admin ordered way too much Guinness in the cans, so to get rid of the leftover cases (14.9 fl. oz. can, 24 pk.) she was selling a can of Guinness for $0.50, a case for $12.00. The soda in our store, at that time, was $0.75 a can!
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Old 04-17-2019, 08:17 PM
 
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Unpaid overtime = corporate welfare.

And didn't this out of touch creep tout the 4 day workweek?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/59273171.cms
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Old 04-22-2019, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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And hey, look, it's not just losers on an internet forum who think Ma is full of [how do you say 'crap' in Chinese?]!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/21/o...ck-ma-996.html
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