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Old 04-24-2019, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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What's the point of living if all your waking hours are for working, eating so you can work and sleeping so you can work.
C'mon. Do it for your Ma.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:43 PM
 
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Lots of people I've worked with in the past used to say "I haven't had a real vacation in x number of years." They would say this proudly. I would always think to myself "that's sad."

You're not going to get that time back and who the hell looks back on life when they're older and wished they worked more hours?

But if people want to work themselves to death, more power to them!
My buddy did tax\financial planning for very wealthy people and had a client near retirement.

Guy wasn't even 60 yet, had a net worth over 50million and during a conversation about what he wanted to do in retirement he had no idea.

I'm probably not explaining it as well as my friend conveyed to me but in short, the guy had spent the last almost 40 years working his butt off so hard that he'd lost any interests he'd may have once had in terms of passions, hobbies etc. Guy was facing retirement and was utterly at a loss. I've heard about guys like that dropping dead within a year of retiring.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Guy was facing retirement and was utterly at a loss. I've heard about guys like that dropping dead within a year of retiring.
Extreme case, but not rare; the single best argument against the standard "retirement" model. It's a bit like the yuk "You can live forever by giving up everything that makes life worth living" - "You can quit working by spending your life working to make it happen."
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:55 PM
 
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I'm not defending this guy's philosophy, but I think it's often underestimated how much time a CEO or executive puts into the company. They might not be spending 12 hours hammering out code or spreadsheets, but they spend a lot of time in meetings, giving presentations, schmoozing for business, and promoting the brand on behalf of the company and shareholders. Say what you want, but it's an exhausting lifestyle. Note that I consider it a lifestyle, not just a job. Sure, the pay can afford you many comforts and influence in life. But there's absolutely no way I'd want to do it.

That's true but they are at the top controllling the course of the company, and many of them started the company. It's their baby. That's a lot different than 996 in the trenches and salt mines working for others. That will just make you old and broken.
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Old 04-24-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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Lots of people I've worked with in the past used to say "I haven't had a real vacation in x number of years." They would say this proudly. I would always think to myself "that's sad."

You're not going to get that time back and who the hell looks back on life when they're older and wished they worked more hours?

But if people want to work themselves to death, more power to them!

Many are workaholics because it's the only thing that gives their life meaning.
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Old 04-24-2019, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Many are workaholics because it's the only thing that gives their life meaning.
Often because they were told that only maximum income and consumption made life worthwhile. And they bought it.
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Old 04-24-2019, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Somebody needs to give ol' Jack a wake up call. The rest of us would be just as happy working fewer hours and fewer days and only get a million bucks a year. Who needs a billion dollars? It would be nice, but do you need it at the cost of not having a life?
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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The only time I could see a schedule like this is if it's temporary. Ex high overtime, or working 2 jobs to save for a goal. Like moving out of state, a down payment on a car etc. Many of us have done similar.

As for long term, this is not the way to go at all. Work smarter, strive to have a life. You get only one. Once its over, its over.
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Old 04-27-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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Jack Ma is a sociopath.

Unpaid overtime = corporate welfare.

Also, wasn't he arguing for a 3 day workweek? He has no idea what he is talking about.
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