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Old 04-19-2019, 09:56 AM
 
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I'm sure the people there that they're interviewing for my investigation know dates and times also
Guarantee they’ll forget too. Bottom line is that it’s a lost cause.

 
Old 04-19-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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Exactly,even if I don't get a settlement it'll show them that the employee is not always the defenseless little guy to be minimized. What I'd like mainly is for the main perpetrators of this charade have their plan backfire on them and for them to be reprimanded. It was already heading in that direction before this management change. It all has to do with the type of people they get in,if they have brass b*lls to do this to employees or just be yes men and go along to get along. Seems nowadays bullying is back in style.
You won't show them anything. They have attorneys on retainer for such annoyances as this.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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I'm only wanting to sue for the anguish this is putting me through at the moment,they literally threw a wrench into the move I had planned. I was counting on that income towards the expenses. Now I am facing eviction by the end of the month if I can't make this move. But if I am able to secure unemployment I may not follow through with the other,but somehow I've got to make up for the loss of income. Plus it's no easy feat just finding a job around here. It's becoming overpopulated quicker than the infrastructure can handle.
I'm sure you haven't thought about remote work BUT you need to as well.There are plenty of jobs in the medical field that you can do from home or just any phone work job you can get from home.You need to look in that direction as well.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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You won't show them anything. They have attorneys on retainer for such annoyances as this.
So says you. I'm sure the labor organizations aren't just in business for the employers.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I'm sure you haven't thought about remote work BUT you need to as well.There are plenty of jobs in the medical field that you can do from home or just any phone work job you can get from home.You need to look in that direction as well.
I'm a seasoned job searcher thanks,and not just because of things like this.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 01:43 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Agreed, but you have to realize that the OP, like 90% of those on this forum seeking 'advice,' aren't really looking for meaningful suggestions, but more venting and looking for the 'advice' that most fits their opinions.

That's why even though several have told the OP there is no case here, that it's not illegal to bully someone in general, the OP will ignore all of that and only agree with those encouraging to seek a lawsuit. The OP is consumed with desires of vengeance, not healthy.

Absolutely nothing the OP mentioned are grounds for any legal action. OP cannot remember specifics of any incidents even. While I dislike bullies myself, good luck on the OP trying to sue them. Perhaps the OP can come back and let us know how the pursuit of legal options goes, just to prove us wrong.

Good luck.
You know, everyone always reminds people that emails and forum postings can be misconstrued because the writing lacks "tone" but eventually things emerge. OP TBH, your trigger to file a grievance or suit seems to be set quite fine. Sure there are bad people to be found in most workplaces...that's obvious. People decide to behave like jerks everywhere and it isn't reserved for management. All the little innuendos and hints in your posts about having been down this road multiple times, as well as your rather snappy dismissal of suggestions from others makes me wonder how one-sided the whole situation actually is.

You don't want advice. You want validation. A cheering or a handwringing section. Is it true that nothing you did played into all of this? That you are an innocent victim?

Sorry, but a favorite expression I haven't had the chance to use recently comes to mind:

That dog won't hunt.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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I've been with this company for over a year,everything was fine. Then a month or so ago we got this toxic manager...toxic in that she's left a trail of quitting employees and workplace upheaval at her other place(s). She even was escorted off property before,and even had to leave the last place. So naturally what happens? She brings it to this place. And who was one of the first people targeted? You got it,yours truly...

I don't know if she's just trying to deflect from her own issues but somehow she targets me with all kinds of harrassment,but not enough to bring up to management...she must know how to skirt the line of legality. She bullies,but not to raise flags. She'll just target me and aim all criticisms toward me,even to the point of completely making things up, while taking it easy on the other workers...and even doing the opposite and playing favorites with them.

I've heard all along that it's very difficult to get fired from this company because they always seem to be short on help,but I've heard that other places before and who ends up getting booted on other technicalities? You got it. But that's part of the reason she hasn't gotten the axe either...in some sort of twisted corporate logic they could look at her as 'ruling with an iron fist'...even if it means losing employees(?)

Anyway since the process of getting someone fired takes so long...multiple writeups etc. I guess they thought of another way to get me on technicalities...since it's a healthcare facility,the state takes any and all accusations of anything seriously. So what happens? All of a sudden I get called into the office one day with no warning that I"m being 'placed on suspension pending an investigation'. Of what you ask? Oh 'harrassment' and/or creating a hostile work environment. Ironic since that's exactly what this manager has done herself,so what better way to get the focus off her? What was the charge? Oh someone heard me swear,or something...oh wow how horrendous. Like I don't hear things like that every day there.

I have contacted higher management,but all they said was 'the company is completing the investigation and will contact you'.

In the meantime I'm going without pay and it's been over a week. Can I ultimately sue for things like stress and loss of wages? I've also got a landlord demanding payment etc.

You are not there long enough to establish a real track record. If you talk to an attorney, it should only be for advice. If she treats everyone the way that she treats you that's her management style and maybe she was brought in to weed out those who don't desperately need the money.

Going to management or HR is a mistake. HR is usually a toadie with a liberal arts degree who has already lost their soul to keep their job.


You are alone in your struggle. You wouldn't be if you were in a union.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by Parnassia View Post
You know, everyone always reminds people that emails and forum postings can be misconstrued because the writing lacks "tone" but eventually things emerge. OP TBH, your trigger to file a grievance or suit seems to be set quite fine. Sure there are bad people to be found in most workplaces...that's obvious. People decide to behave like jerks everywhere and it isn't reserved for management. All the little innuendos and hints in your posts about having been down this road multiple times, as well as your rather snappy dismissal of suggestions from others makes me wonder how one-sided the whole situation actually is.

You don't want advice. You want validation. A cheering or a handwringing section. Is it true that nothing you did played into all of this? That you are an innocent victim?

Sorry, but a favorite expression I haven't had the chance to use recently comes to mind:

That dog won't hunt.
Nice poetry,but perhaps it was others that snipped first...that's what certain people seem to dismiss themselves. That and a combination of yes having been there before...perhaps I'm just good at attracting bullies because I don't back down to them.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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You are alone in your struggle. You wouldn't be if you were in a union.
I suppose those who like to cast us out like we are the only ones are around for nothing but to make us more determined. I'm sure everyone likes being told 'you can't do it',adds to their morale you know?

As far as unions,perhaps you live in a big city or the northeast but out here unions are pretty much unheard of.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Originally Posted by Truth11 View Post
I've been with this company for over a year,everything was fine. Then a month or so ago we got this toxic manager...toxic in that she's left a trail of quitting employees and workplace upheaval at her other place(s). She even was escorted off property before,and even had to leave the last place. So naturally what happens? She brings it to this place. And who was one of the first people targeted? You got it,yours truly...

I don't know if she's just trying to deflect from her own issues but somehow she targets me with all kinds of harrassment,but not enough to bring up to management...she must know how to skirt the line of legality. She bullies,but not to raise flags. She'll just target me and aim all criticisms toward me,even to the point of completely making things up, while taking it easy on the other workers...and even doing the opposite and playing favorites with them.

I've heard all along that it's very difficult to get fired from this company because they always seem to be short on help,but I've heard that other places before and who ends up getting booted on other technicalities? You got it. But that's part of the reason she hasn't gotten the axe either...in some sort of twisted corporate logic they could look at her as 'ruling with an iron fist'...even if it means losing employees(?)

Anyway since the process of getting someone fired takes so long...multiple writeups etc. I guess they thought of another way to get me on technicalities...since it's a healthcare facility,the state takes any and all accusations of anything seriously. So what happens? All of a sudden I get called into the office one day with no warning that I"m being 'placed on suspension pending an investigation'. Of what you ask? Oh 'harrassment' and/or creating a hostile work environment. Ironic since that's exactly what this manager has done herself,so what better way to get the focus off her? What was the charge? Oh someone heard me swear,or something...oh wow how horrendous. Like I don't hear things like that every day there.

I have contacted higher management,but all they said was 'the company is completing the investigation and will contact you'.

In the meantime I'm going without pay and it's been over a week. Can I ultimately sue for things like stress and loss of wages? I've also got a landlord demanding payment etc.

If everyone who felt they lost their job unfairly sued, the courts would have nothing but these cases to try. Suck it up, move on, and put this behind you. Harboring these kinds of feelings is totally non productive, and will only eat you up.
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