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Can you give specifics what she did or said to you?
It's a bit difficult to remember every word that was said going back months,but most of it was just on the job scare tactics. Most of it had to do with things they said about me to others rather than to me. Character defamation mainly.
It's a bit difficult to remember every word that was said going back months,but most of it was just on the job scare tactics. Most of it had to do with things they said about me to others rather than to me. Character defamation mainly.
Unless it was based around a protected class (race, gender, creed, ethnicity, ability) then it likely wouldn't be a good case. Just know the next time you see her (I think you said it was a woman) introduced as a co-worker to get your resume ready to jump ship elsewhere.
I'll say it never hurts to talk to a reputable lawyer. Avoid Lionel Hutz types if you can. I think if anything you'd get a settlement because even if the company knows they very well could win, they don't want to deal with the headache of a case being public record, especially if they are publicly traded.
Exactly,even if I don't get a settlement it'll show them that the employee is not always the defenseless little guy to be minimized. What I'd like mainly is for the main perpetrators of this charade have their plan backfire on them and for them to be reprimanded. It was already heading in that direction before this management change. It all has to do with the type of people they get in,if they have brass b*lls to do this to employees or just be yes men and go along to get along. Seems nowadays bullying is back in style.
I can and have to other employees and management before...which by the way this plays into the story now...I worked for her briefly at the other location. I thought for sure she would get ousted from all the other things she's been doing...but no,surprisingly she rises from the ashes only to keep up with the same things and managment going right along with it.
One thing I could probably try doing also is go over local management's heads,because I've witnessed with other companies they try to keep it amongst themselves and not let it get out of the area and go any higher. Not that corporate really has time to deal with something small by comparison,since they are a national company.
You're wasting your time. Apply for UI right now and start interviewing.
It's a bit difficult to remember every word that was said going back months,but most of it was just on the job scare tactics. Most of it had to do with things they said about me to others rather than to me. Character defamation mainly.
So... heresay. Good luck basing a case on that. Particularly when you "can't remember"
Any lawyer will tell you that you really have no case. A company has ever right to hire any manager they want, even someone who's MEAN to others in the workplace. Don't like it? Don't work there and go draw a paycheck from somewhere else or go start your own company.
If a company wants to destroy itself by chasing away it's talent due to an overbearing manager, it certainly can, but that doesn't make it grounds for a lawsuit.
Any lawyer will tell you that you really have no case. A company has ever right to hire any manager they want, even someone who's MEAN to others in the workplace. Don't like it? Don't work there and go draw a paycheck from somewhere else or go start your own company.
If a company wants to destroy itself by chasing away it's talent due to an overbearing manager, it certainly can, but that doesn't make it grounds for a lawsuit.
Agreed, but you have to realize that the OP, like 90% of those on this forum seeking 'advice,' aren't really looking for meaningful suggestions, but more venting and looking for the 'advice' that most fits their opinions.
That's why even though several have told the OP there is no case here, that it's not illegal to bully someone in general, the OP will ignore all of that and only agree with those encouraging to seek a lawsuit. The OP is consumed with desires of vengeance, not healthy.
Absolutely nothing the OP mentioned are grounds for any legal action. OP cannot remember specifics of any incidents even. While I dislike bullies myself, good luck on the OP trying to sue them. Perhaps the OP can come back and let us know how the pursuit of legal options goes, just to prove us wrong.
I've been with this company for over a year,everything was fine. Then a month or so ago we got this toxic manager...toxic in that she's left a trail of quitting employees and workplace upheaval at her other place(s). She even was escorted off property before,and even had to leave the last place. So naturally what happens? She brings it to this place. And who was one of the first people targeted? You got it,yours truly...
I don't know if she's just trying to deflect from her own issues but somehow she targets me with all kinds of harrassment,but not enough to bring up to management...she must know how to skirt the line of legality. She bullies,but not to raise flags. She'll just target me and aim all criticisms toward me,even to the point of completely making things up, while taking it easy on the other workers...and even doing the opposite and playing favorites with them.
I've heard all along that it's very difficult to get fired from this company because they always seem to be short on help,but I've heard that other places before and who ends up getting booted on other technicalities? You got it. But that's part of the reason she hasn't gotten the axe either...in some sort of twisted corporate logic they could look at her as 'ruling with an iron fist'...even if it means losing employees(?)
Anyway since the process of getting someone fired takes so long...multiple writeups etc. I guess they thought of another way to get me on technicalities...since it's a healthcare facility,the state takes any and all accusations of anything seriously. So what happens? All of a sudden I get called into the office one day with no warning that I"m being 'placed on suspension pending an investigation'. Of what you ask? Oh 'harrassment' and/or creating a hostile work environment. Ironic since that's exactly what this manager has done herself,so what better way to get the focus off her? What was the charge? Oh someone heard me swear,or something...oh wow how horrendous. Like I don't hear things like that every day there.
I have contacted higher management,but all they said was 'the company is completing the investigation and will contact you'.
In the meantime I'm going without pay and it's been over a week. Can I ultimately sue for things like stress and loss of wages? I've also got a landlord demanding payment etc.
Swearing isn't harassment unless you swore about someone in particular. Did you do that? That is bad form, no matter where you work. I'm no angel, but in all my decades of working, I never swore about a person at work, whether it was a superior or co-worker or underling. In fact, I can't recall ever swearing at all at work, although it's possible I muttered something under my breath to myself.
As for your rent being due, if I were you, I would be super frugal in the future, and build an emergency savings account that would pay your basic expenses for several months. Everyone needs this, or you could end up homeless. When I say frugal, I MEAN frugal. Identify your "needs" versus your "wants." You never "need" a new tv or a smartphone or individually wrapped cheese slices. No matter how long it takes, you "need" an emergency savings account. Until you have your savings account built up, your goal is not to spend any money at all, unless you have to. You HAVE to pay rent, pay utilities, pay for transportation, basic groceries, insurance. No new shoes or clothes, though. No doodads for the apartment. No nothing but the absolute necessities. For groceries, you should be able to eat okay on $150/mo., depending on where you live. You have to be creative and never eat out. It's restrictive, but it can be done. Spaghetti & pasta sauce with ground turkey; baked chicken that you can eat on for several days; sandwiches; food on sale or in season; rice & beans; brew your own tea instead of buying cola; use coupons and buy sales, etc.
In order to sue for a hostile work environment, you have to document incidents. So you need to keep a short list at home of things said or done to you by that manager. Don't keep it at work, obviously, except for notes in a purse or whatever.
Since you were placed on unpaid leave pending an investigation, you are probably on a list to be terminated. So make your plans. It may take a while to get another job, without a reference from this one. Is there a possibility of working temp or contract in your city?
Swearing isn't harassment unless you swore about someone in particular. Did you do that? In fact, I can't recall ever swearing at all at work, although it's possible I muttered something under my breath to myself.
As for your rent being due, if I were you, I would be super frugal in the future, and build an emergency savings account that would pay your basic expenses for several months. When I say frugal, I MEAN frugal. Identify your "needs" versus your "wants." No matter how long it takes, you "need" an emergency savings account. Until you have your savings account built up, your goal is not to spend any money at all, unless you have to. You HAVE to pay rent, pay utilities, pay for transportation, basic groceries, insurance. No nothing but the absolute necessities. For groceries, you should be able to eat okay on $150/mo., depending on where you live. You have to be creative and never eat out. It's restrictive, but it can be done.
No I didn't swear at another person,ever. And if they try to say I did then they are fabricating or lying which is more grounds for actions against them. And like I said,this manager already has infractions against her...so hey why not bring her enemies down with her? Only thing is I can find something somewhere else,she still has to live with a bunch of these things on her record,including swearing herself.
As far as 'saving'...with living from paycheck to paycheck for sometime and hearing the advice many times,there's really nothing I can cut any further. I'm not living on cheap food for the length of time that it would take to even scratch the surface,because the health issues associated with it just aren't worth it. I'd rather be poor and healthy.
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