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Old 04-18-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I've been with this company for over a year,everything was fine. Then a month or so ago we got this toxic manager...toxic in that she's left a trail of quitting employees and workplace upheaval at her other place(s). She even was escorted off property before,and even had to leave the last place. So naturally what happens? She brings it to this place. And who was one of the first people targeted? You got it,yours truly...

I don't know if she's just trying to deflect from her own issues but somehow she targets me with all kinds of harrassment,but not enough to bring up to management...she must know how to skirt the line of legality. She bullies,but not to raise flags. She'll just target me and aim all criticisms toward me,even to the point of completely making things up, while taking it easy on the other workers...and even doing the opposite and playing favorites with them.

I've heard all along that it's very difficult to get fired from this company because they always seem to be short on help,but I've heard that other places before and who ends up getting booted on other technicalities? You got it. But that's part of the reason she hasn't gotten the axe either...in some sort of twisted corporate logic they could look at her as 'ruling with an iron fist'...even if it means losing employees(?)

Anyway since the process of getting someone fired takes so long...multiple writeups etc. I guess they thought of another way to get me on technicalities...since it's a healthcare facility,the state takes any and all accusations of anything seriously. So what happens? All of a sudden I get called into the office one day with no warning that I"m being 'placed on suspension pending an investigation'. Of what you ask? Oh 'harrassment' and/or creating a hostile work environment. Ironic since that's exactly what this manager has done herself,so what better way to get the focus off her? What was the charge? Oh someone heard me swear,or something...oh wow how horrendous. Like I don't hear things like that every day there.

I have contacted higher management,but all they said was 'the company is completing the investigation and will contact you'.

In the meantime I'm going without pay and it's been over a week. Can I ultimately sue for things like stress and loss of wages? I've also got a landlord demanding payment etc.

 
Old 04-18-2019, 12:35 PM
 
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Sure you can sue. Whether you'll win or not is a different story.

What do you plan on doing if the investigation goes in your favor?

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Old 04-18-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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You can sue for whatever you want...whether you will win will be the question.


You use lots of words like "bullying" and "harassment". Can you provide some clear examples of exactly what you mean?
 
Old 04-18-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Sure you can sue. Whether you'll win or not is a different story.

What do you plan on doing if they investigation goes in your favor?
I'm going to wait to hear the results first naturally...just preparing for the worst because I've had it damn near happen a few times.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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You can sue for whatever you want...whether you will win will be the question.

You use lots of words like "bullying" and "harassment". Can you provide some clear examples of exactly what you mean?
I can and have to other employees and management before...which by the way this plays into the story now...I worked for her briefly at the other location. I thought for sure she would get ousted from all the other things she's been doing...but no,surprisingly she rises from the ashes only to keep up with the same things and managment going right along with it.

One thing I could probably try doing also is go over local management's heads,because I've witnessed with other companies they try to keep it amongst themselves and not let it get out of the area and go any higher. Not that corporate really has time to deal with something small by comparison,since they are a national company.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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I can and have to other employees and management before...which by the way this plays into the story now...I worked for her briefly at the other location. I thought for sure she would get ousted from all the other things she's been doing...but no,surprisingly she rises from the ashes only to keep up with the same things and managment going right along with it.

Or it could be that the things that she is doing does not actually qualify, legally, as harassment.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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In the meantime I'm going without pay and it's been over a week.
As an FYI, under federal unemployment guidelines, once your employer is no longer providing you with work and not providing pay, you are eligible to apply for unemployment benefits. This usually forces the employer to make a decision as a suspicion of misconduct is not a disqualifying event for unemployment benefits. Once they stopped paying you they technically terminated you. As such, even if found to have violated the company rules afterwards, at the time of your termination, they did not actually have proof of any violation, just a suspicion so the cause of your termination at the time of termination could not have been for misconduct. So you get benefits. This is one of those technicalities an unemployment educated and intelligent employee uses to their advantage. Unfortunately, most just let the employer screw them over.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 01:14 PM
 
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I can and have to other employees and management before...which by the way this plays into the story now...I worked for her briefly at the other location. I thought for sure she would get ousted from all the other things she's been doing...but no,surprisingly she rises from the ashes only to keep up with the same things and managment going right along with it.

One thing I could probably try doing also is go over local management's heads,because I've witnessed with other companies they try to keep it amongst themselves and not let it get out of the area and go any higher. Not that corporate really has time to deal with something small by comparison,since they are a national company.
Is her previous employer at the liberty to say anything in regard of what type of employee she was? You can "out" her during the investigation once they ask for your side of the story. I guess there is a chance you can convince your current employer that she feels her certain way about you since you've crossed path before.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Look, what would probably work better is to assert yourself in the workplace and try to not look like a target. Toxic behavior is everywhere, toxic managers are more common than dirt and occasionally they will need scapegoats. I'm not saying you're at fault, but you need to learn how to deal with this person; if they're already in trouble, but they hold some power, you could probably get a good deal if you looked at their good points and spoke about them in a positive way suddenly. If they're that stupid, they'll hoover it up instantly and you'll be the best of friends! Don't forget everyone needs love sometimes.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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As an FYI, under federal unemployment guidelines, once your employer is no longer providing you with work and not providing pay, you are eligible to apply for unemployment benefits. This usually forces the employer to make a decision as a suspicion of misconduct is not a disqualifying event for unemployment benefits. Once they stopped paying you they technically terminated you. As such, even if found to have violated the company rules afterwards, at the time of your termination, they did not actually have proof of any violation, just a suspicion so the cause of your termination at the time of termination could not have been for misconduct. So you get benefits. This is one of those technicalities an unemployment educated and intelligent employee uses to their advantage. Unfortunately, most just let the employer screw them over.
I'm not one to let myself be screwed over,as I have before and try to learn what to do each time. I thought about applying for unemp but in my head I was thinking they're going to ask me what the last day of work was and technically I wasn't terminated,so they'd probably just have me wait for a decision then. Even so if they eventually did terminate me I could always put that down as the last day of work. Though I probably should have gotten the ball rolling early since there were signs they weren't intending on having me return to that location anyway...having to turn in my keys,other coworkers dropping communication with me. You'd think this kind of thing never happened before there,which it has. There was another employee who surprisingly had a similar accusation,but her investigation only took a few days. I think because we're just contractors there and she was a direct employee. Anyhow.
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