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Old 04-25-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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A little bit of stress here and there is fine. I'm mostly referring to the "We live to work here, and we'll expect that you'll work around the clock for us. We'll even throw in some cool perks that will make it seem like a good deal for you". The ones who joke about how little time they take off, or brag about not remembering the last time they ate lunch. That sort of thing.
Isn't this so many tech companies? Like how Google serves their own food and gym to make you stay there longer, but disguise it as perks? I remember that was a hot topic in the news for about a week about 10 years ago and there were articles written about it. It was a fascinating topic and many commenters had great comments.

Hard to know what's going on in their heads, but yeah, maybe they think they're being really productive. Or they may be laughing on the outside to look polite but cursing out the company at home. And to answer your other questions, there is a certain comraderie (sp?) when you are suffering with other people. That's why "misery loves company" is true.
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Old 04-25-2019, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Isn't this so many tech companies? Like how Google serves their own food and gym to make you work there longer into the night, but disguise it as perks? I remember that was a hot topic in the news for about a week about 10 years ago.
It tends to be much smaller companies in wannabe sectors, aping the great Google (and generally San Jose) model because, you know, Google.
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Old 04-25-2019, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Mars City
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It's probably been said by others, but I've noticed in some work situations that there are people who actually feed off of tension, deadlines, and stress. And they try to inflict the same mentality onto others, if the recipient will let them. I don't, and keep that nonsense at bay, but do see others who do willingly respond.
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Old 04-25-2019, 08:16 PM
 
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Busy busy worker bees,
Drone drone all day,
Make your bosses happy,
Slave slave away!
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:31 AM
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Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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The guy who says he has plenty of time to work at a relaxed pace and take all the time off he wants will soon find himself either overwhelmed or laid off, so if that is your situation it's best to keep quiet during those conversations.
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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Every employee should read the book Lead Your Boss by John Baldoni
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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Isn't this so many tech companies? Like how Google serves their own food and gym to make you stay there longer, but disguise it as perks? I remember that was a hot topic in the news for about a week about 10 years ago and there were articles written about it. It was a fascinating topic and many commenters had great comments.

Hard to know what's going on in their heads, but yeah, maybe they think they're being really productive. Or they may be laughing on the outside to look polite but cursing out the company at home. And to answer your other questions, there is a certain comraderie (sp?) when you are suffering with other people. That's why "misery loves company" is true.
Yeah, those who yearn to work for Google or all the high tech companies usually are the fresh out of college, young, innocent, energetic, eager to get a job and dream about big money. And when they work there for a few years, they know what it's like working there, or they get older, have family and children, they may find out that life is not just about work and money, so they get out. Or when they learn all about the good, the bad, the beautiful and the ugly things in there, the higher-ups who push and shove them, use them like slaves, or pull strings like managing puppets, so they (the employees) want to get out of there. The plays may be like in The Circle movie.

Yeah, most of them are very smart, but to certain time they feel used and burned out and find out those companies are not their dream workplace, and they decide to get out.
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Old 04-26-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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I've seen it my entire career. It's crazy that management can be so clueless.

At my last job, management wasn't clueless. We were all overburdened and management was proud of it. That meant they had laid off enough people to make the business profitable. The concept didn't work in the long run because one person really can't do the work of two in the long term, but management enjoyed it while it did work!



Strangely enough, the work of two people shrunk to enough work for one person. Then it was gone and the business closed. I was so happy to leave there!
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Old 04-26-2019, 04:05 PM
 
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In pre-IPO companies, the culture is absolutely work long and hard, and the carrot at the end of the stick is pre-IPO stock and options that, upon IPO, generate several million dollars in paper profits. Most never have that liquidity event. Most fail. Of the remainder, most become "walking dead" that cannot go public and aren't worth much to acquire. But, every now and then, there's a gem worth boatloads.

At any rate, the whole idea of working for a living is over-rated.
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Old 04-26-2019, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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I worked in a tech company like this during the dot-com bubble. Free snacks and lunches, flexible hours, relaxed dress code, but you'd better not leave the office at 5:00 even if your work was done. And yes, almost everyone who worked there was 30 or under. I was in my late 30s and felt like a fossil. Company didn't survive once the bubble burst.
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