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Old 05-08-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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Well, your boss and his boss appear to have no backbone, so just cut through all the crap and go to program manager "A" directly and state you heard he said "whatever" and you want to clear the air because it appears there is a misunderstanding.


Or, what Quietude wrote.
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:09 PM
 
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Well, your boss and his boss appear to have no backbone, so just cut through all the crap and go to program manager "A" directly and state you heard he said "whatever" and you want to clear the air because it appear there is a misunderstanding.
Problem is the second 'A' gets confronted, he starts screaming and then runs straight to the CEO of the company to complain.
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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DO NOT go to HR; that will do nothing for you. They exist to shield the company, not you.

Your work-place sounds a tad childish, but even worse is the fact that you're letting it get to you. Keep doing your job, but continue looking elsewhere.

In the future, try not to rent an apartment that's at the top of what you can afford. Then you won't have to worry as much about pay-cuts if your job options are limited.
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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DO NOT go to HR; that will do nothing for you. They exist to shield the company, not you.

Your work-place sounds a tad childish, but even worse is the fact that you're letting it get to you. Keep doing your job, but continue looking elsewhere.

In the future, try not to rent an apartment that's at the top of what you can afford. Then you won't have to worry as much about pay-cuts if your job options are limited.
Look, I can easily afford my apartment. It's more than I live in a high CoL city, and (of course) would rather not take a pay cut unless there was a real reason to.
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Look, I can easily afford my apartment. It's more than I live in a high CoL city, and (of course) would rather not take a pay cut unless there was a real reason to.
I did not say you couldn't afford the apartment currently. I was referring to the fact you said your rent is too expensive to take a pay-cut. I was just recommending to try to find something cheaper in the future so that's less of a problem. No one ever wants to take a pay-cut of course, but you never know what will happen down the road. In your case, it sounds like no one else (locally) in your field is paying what you make.
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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If you have to stay 5 months then you really doesn't have a choice but to keep your head down, do your work to the best of your ability, and stay out of the drama around you.

Unless you're absolutely required to don't talk or even look at your problem PM. It sounds like it's known around the company that he's a hassle so don't engage just ignore until you get to leave. If he goes out of his way to bother you ignore him, simply write down the interaction in a journal so you can reference what was said if it comes up, but don't go beyond that as it obviously won't result in management doing anything but point out your part in the drama.

Workplace bullies suck, but they've been a thing since the beginning of the "workplace". Best to just ignore and stay out of his radar while your there.
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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Maybe this will help, but here is what the 'trigger' was:

There is a training that I completed previously to learn how to 'submit' candidates to a specific contract.
'A' asked me to re-take the training, which is fine, but each training video is about 30 minutes long and there are 7 videos. I told him that I will re-take it, but I'll do it over the course of several days, as doing it all in one day is overwhelming/a lot.
So me saying that I'll be spreading out the training instead of doing it all in one day was the 'trigger'
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Maybe this will help, but here is what the 'trigger' was:

There is a training that I completed previously to learn how to 'submit' candidates to a specific contract.
'A' asked me to re-take the training, which is fine, but each training video is about 30 minutes long and there are 7 videos. I told him that I will re-take it, but I'll do it over the course of several days, as doing it all in one day is overwhelming/a lot.
So me saying that I'll be spreading out the training instead of doing it all in one day was the 'trigger'
Sounds like the parallel discussion where some of us just didn't genuflect properly at the altar of Six Sigma, Agile, ISO, etc. Mod cut. ridiculous.

Last edited by PJSaturn; 05-08-2019 at 02:08 PM.. Reason: Inappropriate language.
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Mars City
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Like others have said, try to stir clear of the drama, try to hold onto dignity and your own self-respect, and try to keep a positive attitude. You can't control others, and can't control their spread of information (correct or bogus), but you can make yourself look better and even confident. If you can look different and superior to the a-holes, it will distinguish you, and give you the best chances.

Focus on what you can change and improve on, rather than what's out of your hands.

And worst case, couldn't you just cut the ties and head home sooner? What's so important to keep you there until October?
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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Maybe this will help, but here is what the 'trigger' was:

There is a training that I completed previously to learn how to 'submit' candidates to a specific contract.
'A' asked me to re-take the training, which is fine, but each training video is about 30 minutes long and there are 7 videos. I told him that I will re-take it, but I'll do it over the course of several days, as doing it all in one day is overwhelming/a lot.
So me saying that I'll be spreading out the training instead of doing it all in one day was the 'trigger'
Why were you being asked to retake training? Is this a form of remedial training?
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