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Old 05-03-2019, 01:14 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I remember employees 40 years ago bitching when the company I worked for transitioned from an open office to cubicles.
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Old 05-03-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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I don't think open floor plans are going away any time soon sadly. .
They are not going away. It is cheaper to have an open floor plan than individual offices. It is all about the $$$.
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Old 05-03-2019, 01:27 PM
 
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They are not going away. It is cheaper to have an open floor plan than individual offices. It is all about the $$$.
I blame Dilbert. There was a series of popular Dilbert cartoons that lambasted cubicles. This bled into the cultural psyche that cubicles were bad. Management responded with open work spaces.

Google "Dilbert cartoons cubicle." Some of them are pretty funny. I still love a cubicle.
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Old 05-03-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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I hate feeling just an invisible wheel in the machine. Even if I am one, I prefer to have some respect.
Respect? lol. If you work for a publicly held corporation, respect is not applicable because it has nothing to do with a corporation's fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder value. You might get some respect if you work for a private company, a company owned by an individual, etc but that depends on the personality of the individuals owner(s).

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If the suits up there really think this open office hell boosts morale, they're wrong.
The suits don't care. Again, if you work for a publicly held corporation, employee morale isn't applicable unless it's a line item somewhere on the P&L. IMO dehumanizing the employee and reducing the experience to that of an inanimate object, means that you'll do what you are told, take what you get, and you won't complain. Or you know where the door is.


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It lowers morale as it causes even more gossiping and most such environments are toxic.
As long as the low morale and toxicity doesn't negatively impact earnings, nobody cares. If it does have a negative impact, expect a "re-org", "restructuring" or other "re-alignment" of these employees out the door to get profits back on track. Problem solved.


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And the work itself is so repetitive, it slowly tears away at your soul.
Nobody cares. If you don't like it, please turn in your resignation asap so payroll can get you off the books immediately which will reduce salary expense - at least for a short while.


Hope that helps!
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Old 05-03-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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In the early-mid 1900's Frank Lloyd Wright designed the SE Johnson office building in Racine, Wisconsin with an open floor plan. And a cool lilypad ceiling layout. Open office design isn't new.

https://www.cnet.com/news/did-frank-...eatest-office/

And since it's a FLW design, the roof probably leaks, so be thankful your office doesn't.

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Old 05-03-2019, 05:59 PM
 
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Work in a small business? You don't have to end up like an invisible cog in a machine. My office only has 8 people.
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:15 PM
 
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Work in a small business? You don't have to end up like an invisible cog in a machine. My office only has 8 people.
That's even worst. At least with a large company, you can have a measure of anonymity.
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:25 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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What perspective? I hate feeling just an invisible wheel in the machine. Even if I am one, I prefer to have some respect. I'm ready to trade it for the lunch coupons. If the suits up there really think this open office hell boosts morale, they're wrong. It lowers morale as it causes even more gossiping and most such environments are toxic. And the work itself is so repetitive, it slowly tears away at your soul. I'd rather go sell used cars really as you meet clients on one on ones and it's more personal.
Just because the entrance to someone's workspace has a door doesn't mean they aren't still an invisible wheel in a machine. Building design has little to do with that.

OP you are in for a miserable working life if you don't change the attitude; or the profession. Mowing baseball fields might provide a reality check if you really get desperate. Most jobs get repetitive pretty quickly if you don't have any interest in doing the work and can't see past the present pay period. Your problem isn't the bullpen, its your definition (or lack) of future.
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Old 05-04-2019, 05:37 AM
 
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You know how those huge open plan offices are called informally here? Chicken farms. As the people are arranged and treated like cattle.
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That's even worst. At least with a large company, you can have a measure of anonymity.
I don't like anonymity. If you have the right people, a small team/company is best. On the other hand, at big corporations, most of the people really have the high school mean mentality.
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Old 05-04-2019, 05:59 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I had a job once where I was the admin assistant responsible for all the behind the scenes stuff at a large church. I had my own office at first which was great but then as we grew they gave my office to the church counselor and myself and the bookkeeper found ourselves in the reception area in a bullpen type deal with soundproofing walls going halfway up. Unfortunately it siphoned all the surrounding noise right into our area and it was hard to concentrate.

Then because I was now in the open, staff and church members felt they could just sit and chat with us at any time. I wasn't assertive enough back then to tell them I didn't have time to chat. The only kind of job that makes sense to me to have a bullpen type of environment might be a call center.
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