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Old 05-08-2019, 04:17 PM
 
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He often contradicts himself (saying Obama stimulus plan was too small, now saying Trumps is too large.
But Obama's stimulus plan WAS too small because the economy was cratering at the time. If the Republicans had cooperated and allowed him to do more, we would have emerged from the recession a lot sooner and in better shape.

Why is Trump implementing a stimulus plan now, when the economy is booming? Why throw gasoline on a fire?

Were you responsible for supporting yourself back in 2008? It's hard to see how one can't see the difference between then and now.
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Old 05-08-2019, 04:26 PM
 
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Don't keep hitting your collective heads against the wall about those folks who say "get a new skill" but then remind you that you have no experience with said new skill. There are a lot of dumb people out there who simply don't understand the contradiction of this advice. The key is to ignore them, and to find those who are willing to take a chance on you and your new skills. They exist, sometimes it just takes a little time to find them. Your upside is that you'll be cheaper and they can mold you how they wish rather than break you of bad habits.
Any suggestions for getting past HR screening software that automatically deletes your application if you don't meet specific requirements? Your approach worked in the olden days, but a lot of people get filtered out and never have the opportunity to try to win over a hiring manager.
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Old 05-08-2019, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Any suggestions for getting past HR screening software that automatically deletes your application if you don't meet specific requirements?
Take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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Old 05-08-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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Any suggestions for getting past HR screening software that automatically deletes your application if you don't meet specific requirements? Your approach worked in the olden days, but a lot of people get filtered out and never have the opportunity to try to win over a hiring manager.
Networking. Develop a few elevator pitches, learn how to talk about yourself, get to know people. Someone at the company you're applying to should know you and your story before HR ever gets a resume.
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Old 05-08-2019, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Networking. Develop a few elevator pitches, learn how to talk about yourself, get to know people. Someone at the company you're applying to should know you and your story before HR ever gets a resume.
And a pony. And ice cream and free rides on all the attractions.

Most people can't 'network' a blank wall.
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Old 05-08-2019, 07:42 PM
 
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And a pony. And ice cream and free rides on all the attractions.

Most people can't 'network' a blank wall.
It's a skill like any other. How many hours/week do they practice? People are rarely just good at anything without working at it.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:16 PM
 
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It's a skill like any other. How many hours/week do they practice? People are rarely just good at anything without working at it.


Issue today and really for many years now is that with entire initial and good part of early hiring process now having moved online there is little to nil that can be accomplished by networking.


Yes, there are times when a headhunter, your father or uncle, or maybe just knowing a guy that knows a guy who knows a guy can do something. But in a majority of cases even then word from the top is everyone goes through the same online pipeline.


Am not saying networking doesn't help, because clearly it has in many instances. But these days you can't even get past security and thus into that proverbial elevator without someone "buzzing" you up.


One type of networking still produces good results; best time to find a job is when you have one already. Before you're fired and or if unhappy it is far better to work active connections while you are still seen on top of your game.


Indeed today many new hires are poached from another company, and didn't come through the "help wanted" process at all.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:17 PM
 
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Add to that boomer's retiring and not being replaced in the workforce
The only boomers retiring are those who are getting a juicy pension or have tons of savings. They are a teeny tiny minority of the population of boomers.

90+% of boomers are working until they die. And thanks to age discrimination, they're working Mcjobs.


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a lower labor force participation rate doesn't indicate people who want work can't find it.
So says you. But reality is disagreeing with you.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:20 PM
 
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That's been my point this entire time. It forces someone to continually improve.
What improvement can be done to get past the catch-22?

You ONLY blame the candidate, and ignore the structural unemployment part.



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Blaming the job market, or an employer gives someone an excuse.
But you accept the employers' excuses without any pushback whatsoever.

Stop preaching employer infallibility.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:20 PM
 
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Any suggestions for getting past HR screening software that automatically deletes your application if you don't meet specific requirements? Your approach worked in the olden days, but a lot of people get filtered out and never have the opportunity to try to win over a hiring manager.

Online application process allows employers or whoever to side step a host of discrimination claims, which is likely one reason it has grown in popularity.


Pretty hard to say you were discriminated against for being "black" or any other minority if potential employer doesn't know what you look like from Adam/Eve.
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