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Old 05-23-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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My system works.
What system?

Preaching employer infallibility?

Sorry, not a religion I'm into.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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What system?

Preaching employer infallibility?

Sorry, not a religion I'm into.
Probably not into the First Church of Make Yourself a Big Enough Pest and You Can Win Too, either.
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Old 05-26-2019, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Datum: I just got a "no thanks we don't need you" reply... from the screening service of a company for which I'm scheduled for a second phone interview on Tuesday.

Sub-datum: on a Sunday morning, on a holiday weekend.

First tentative approximation: Significant human involvement here is nil to none, and the whole hiring system's really really screwed up.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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Datum: I just got a "no thanks we don't need you" reply... from the screening service of a company for which I'm scheduled for a second phone interview on Tuesday.

Sub-datum: on a Sunday morning, on a holiday weekend.

First tentative approximation: Significant human involvement here is nil to none, and the whole hiring system's really really screwed up.
Why would the company have scheduled the second interview if they didnít like you? And then to be cancelled by the screening company? Thatís weird.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Why would the company have scheduled the second interview if they didnít like you? And then to be cancelled by the screening company? Thatís weird.
The takeaway here is that hiring, as managed by third-party HR screening services (and probably such internal functions in larger companies) is a completely broken system based on passing keyword/meta-screening before any human sees an application, and completely disconnected from the meaningful hiring process.

Something between sloppiness and casual acceptance of the system's automated methods means the intake system tossed me in the trash without recognizing I'd already been called, interviewed and set up for a more significant interview next week.

Tossed on a holiday Sunday morning... meaning there probably wasn't a human (at least one with an IQ over 94) involved in the action.

Just proves what's been slowly mapped out over the last year or two, for me and many others.
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Old 05-27-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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Oh, I thought the message from the screening company was cancelling your second interview. Yep, it’s a mess. Good luck!
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Anyway, back to general topic... another worrisome datum comes along to challenge the rosy-rose economic indicators and thus the reality of the job market: bonds have been falling in rate, internationally, for a good while. In the past, this has been an infallible indicator of recession, although sometimes delayed by as much as two years from the start of the fall.

But maybe it will be completely different this time, since everyone's 401k's are doing so well.
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Old 05-30-2019, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Anyway, back to general topic... another worrisome datum comes along to challenge the rosy-rose economic indicators and thus the reality of the job market: bonds have been falling in rate, internationally, for a good while. In the past, this has been an infallible indicator of recession, although sometimes delayed by as much as two years from the start of the fall.

But maybe it will be completely different this time, since everyone's 401k's are doing so well.
There are quite a few leading indicators that do not look well. Tractor-trailer freight is among them right now.
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Old 05-31-2019, 05:58 PM
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Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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I know a lot of people who disliked Obama and always poo pooed job creation during his term but now praise the Trump economy. In reality it is much better than during the Recession but many jobs are temp, have either too few or extreme ot, etc. Few jobs that were of the quality where a man could work and his wife could stay home while still affording a single family home, car, and children.
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Old 06-04-2019, 01:37 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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I know a lot of people who disliked Obama and always poo pooed job creation during his term but now praise the Trump economy. In reality it is much better than during the Recession but many jobs are temp, have either too few or extreme ot, etc. Few jobs that were of the quality where a man could work and his wife could stay home while still affording a single family home, car, and children.
That hasn't existed since the 1960s, when houses were $10,000 and new cars $2,000. It's not something any president was responsible for. Women realized that there was more to life than cleaning a house and taking care of babies, so they started to go to college and get jobs.
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