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Old 05-04-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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I have come upon an opportunity for work that requires a lot of traveling. I would be away from home for 3 months at a time and staying in hotels that the company would pay for. I could jump from job site to job site if I so choose and would spend at most a few weeks between hotels.

I'm single, no kids, currently rent, and don't own too many worldly possessions.

I was thinking of getting a van and just living out of the van when not in a hotel. I would save money by not paying rent and I don't want to worry about upkeep on a home when I wouldn't even see it the majority of the year.

The questions is, how/where do I claim income taxes? I believe I need an address, but if I don't want an address then what do I do?
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Old 05-04-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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"Away from home" implies you have one. That would be your legal domicile and address. If it's something like parents, use it as your permanent address.

State taxes would have to be paid in whichever state you earn the money, and reported in your home state.

Generally, the only issue of residence is state taxes. If you live in Kansas and job-travel all over Nebraska, it doesn't really matter what cities or locations in NB.

There are specific IRS rules about "residence," down to (I believe) days of presence in each location. They wouldn't affect federal taxes but would determine apportioning of state taxes.
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Old 05-04-2019, 12:10 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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I would be away from home for 3 months at a time...where do I claim income taxes?
Your home address
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Old 05-04-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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I realize now I wasn't very clear on this....

What I am planning to do is to no longer have an apartment or a home and just live out of a van when I am between job sites.

So if I don't have an address, then where and how do I pay taxes?
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Old 05-04-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Well, you're going to have to get mail SOMEWHERE. Personally I'd rent a PO Box, and let that be your address of record.
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Old 05-04-2019, 12:49 PM
 
Location: In a vehicle.
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Well, you're going to have to get mail SOMEWHERE. Personally I'd rent a PO Box, and let that be your address of record.
This will work till the "True ID" act comes out in full force. Then you'll have to have a "Valid" residential address. But that will also depend on if you're going to do some flying. If it's all driving then I doubt it will affect you that greatly. Frankly I have one address I use for my license (Homeless shelter advocacy group) and a second for my private mail and packages.
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Old 05-04-2019, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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So if I don't have an address, then where and how do I pay taxes?
You'll pay sales taxes at any counter you buy something.

You'll pay no property taxes since you don't own taxable RE.

You'll pay vehicle taxes wherever your van is registered.

You'll pay federal income tax no matter what.

You'll pay state income tax based on wherever you earn the money, unless it's in a different state from what you declare/can prove/statutorially establish as your residence - which often boils down to which state issues your vehicle registration and driver's license. If you earn money in more than one state, you will have to file two apportioned returns.

You are going to have to have some kind of fixed/mail-receipt address for car registration, driver's license, car insurance and many other issues besides tax filing. A PO Box central to your roaming region, perhaps with a friend or family who can check it regularly, is probably the best option.
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Old 05-04-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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I realize now I wasn't very clear on this....

What I am planning to do is to no longer have an apartment or a home and just live out of a van when I am between job sites.

So if I don't have an address, then where and how do I pay taxes?
Your van will exist somewhere. The following is a few years old, but should give you some insight.

https://bakertilly.com/insights/dual...dual-taxation/
Although the rules vary among states, generally speaking, most states define a “resident" as an individual who is in the state for other than a temporary or transitory purpose. States consider a person’s “domicile" to be the place of his or her permanent home to which he or she intends to return to whenever absent from the state for a period of time.
Moreover, your employer requires that they know of which state you are a resident so they can withhold income taxes and forward them to the state's income tax authority.

You will need to file non-resident state income tax returns in each of the states in which you work, plus a resident state income tax return in the state you claim as your domicile. There is not a single rule for this - multiple states can assert you are its resident for state income tax purposes and hence you must file a resident return in each. In general, you want to avoid that if you can.

https://blog.rapidtax.com/can-resident-two-states-time/

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Yes, it is possible to be a resident of two different states at the same time, though it’s pretty rare. One of the most common of these situations involves someone whose domicile is their home state, but who has been living in a different state for work for more than 184 days. In a situation like this it is conceivable that you could be the resident of two states.

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Old 05-04-2019, 03:22 PM
 
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I saw your post on the NH forum.

If you're not familiar with Bob Wells and Cheap RV Living, you should probably join the forum and start watching his videos. He has been van living for many years and can answer just about any question you have. Here is a link to a video from March, 2017, called "Where to Make your State Residence and How to Do it":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jntF...index=2&t=143s

Here is a link to that video in a playlist called: "State Residence, Mail Forwarding and Drivers License for Nomads": https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...Ga5EXtLPCPlYLp

Bob hosts an event every January called the Rubber Tramp Rendezvous in Quartzsite, Arizona. He did a video on the same subject there in 2018 which may contain other/updated information:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umoLxwRiPNU

Here is a link to the Cheap RV Living forum (don't let the name fool you, the site is really mostly people living in/wanting to live in vans): https://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/ Any info in the videos that is outdated is usually updated there.

A warning - Bob is famous for rambling on and on, but you will get the info you need. His YouTube channel covers people living in just about anything, including cars and tents. Just FYI, I haven't watched these particular videos because I'm not interested in the information they contain.

These videos will lead you down an incredible rabbit hole of van living YouTubers. Many are fun and interesting to watch.

Best of luck.
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Old 05-04-2019, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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I would set up "residency" in a state with no income tax.

https://axleaddict.com/rvs/Full-Time...tate-Residency
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