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Old 05-05-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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My uncle has his green belt and a high school diploma. Currently a VP at a national paper products company. Hint: NOT Dunder Mifflin.
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Old 05-05-2019, 06:31 PM
 
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My uncle has his green belt and a high school diploma. Currently a VP at a national paper products company. Hint: NOT Dunder Mifflin.
Certification and education level are not related.
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Old 05-05-2019, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Certification and education level are not related.
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Old 05-05-2019, 08:17 PM
 
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Certification and education level are not related.
What does that have to do with the comment you replied to?
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Old 05-06-2019, 05:37 AM
 
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6-sigma was a much bigger deal a while back when it was GE doing it and before they lost their luster as "the way you run companies".

Like anything, it can be done well or not. *shrug*

P.S. This is not new although the process may have evolved some. I first heard about in the 1980's.
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Old 05-06-2019, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Pittsford, NY
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Well we can see how far it got Motorola who started it who is dead in cell phones or out of that business. If you see a Motorola phone now it is a Lenovo phone. Maybe they should have stayed away from Google, let their R&D bring products that had been started in R&D run to production, instead of constantly try to process improve..... There is a Motorola now that makes other things but not cell phones.

Have people made use of it and other process improvement tools? Things can improve with common sense too and most often do. Sometimes a little tiny philosophy behind these things helps, but if it is about selling the philosophy too much the company is on the path to going out of business like Motorola because instead of making things (making things brings in money) they are selling philosophy. Things like this became about bragging and buzz wording (Lean, Kaizen, 6s) or selling philosophy instead of products.

Can it help you as an employee to get certified in these kinds of things? Yes as long as there are management fads you can impress management so it can be useful to you.
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Old 05-06-2019, 05:49 AM
 
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Six Sigma has sort of fallen out of favor with our company. Like someone said - it was a fad, now onto something new. I think there was also a study done a few years ago showing that companies that embraced Six Sigma LOST money as a whole. It did not help them.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:16 AM
 
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It's absolute nonsense. Corporate goble-dy-goo that I had to suffer through for several weeks. In the end, if someone asked me what it was all about I honestly couldn't even tell you. When I see people list this on their resume/LinkedIn I eyeroll it because I know it's truly meaningless.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Cat Germany uses it big time. Their Project Managers are all Black Belts. Frankly I don't think it helped them on the last 2 multi million dollar projects we partnered on. They came here spouting off this and that and I did old school PM and both projects came in at or under budget...............
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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Does it help advance your career or is it just a fad or gimmick?
It greatly depends on the specific organization and if they value it. Another employer might not put it in the job description and not care about it.

If you truly want to see how to advance in the current company, look at the skills and experiences of the people in the positions you want for yourself in the future. See what they have, and that is usually the best indication if that's what the company values. For example, if there are no head research positions without a PhD, then you need a PhD. If there are no head of development positions without a Master's degree in CS, then that's what you need to do too. But like I said, for that specific organization.

If the employer is encouraging you to do this, such as paying for it, allowing time off to study and attend, and give you a bonus for completing it, then if you plan to stay with the company long term then it would be a good thing to do. It won't ever be negative if you take a job elsewhere to list that you have it, but don't expect every employer to desire that skill.

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