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Old 05-06-2019, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Six Sigma and Agile/SAFe aren't really in the same area. One is process improvement and the other is project management. I guess a less sophisticated company could get them confused.
Yeah, kind of like astrology and phrenology. Kinda-almost the same thing, but not.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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Yeah, kind of like astrology and phrenology. Kinda-almost the same thing, but not.
Phrenology and nephrology
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:06 PM
 
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Six Sigma and Agile/SAFe aren't really in the same area. One is process improvement and the other is project management. I guess a less sophisticated company could get them confused.
How long have you had a six sigma certification?
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Old 05-07-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: SC
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Certifications benefit the authors who invent and copywrite them, the training organizations who sell the courseware, and then force an recertification every x years, and the companies that want to promote themselves as being x.x Certified.

If the company you are working for is willing to pay for your certification, go ahead and do it - especially if they are also letting you get training during working hours. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother.
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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How long have you had a six sigma certification?
About 5 years.
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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About 5 years.
Which level? I find it very odd that someone with experience in both six-sigma and agile wouldn't see the obvious crossover and benefits from both, provided they are actually using both correctly. People who actually understand both see how they clearly benefit from each other.

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Old 05-07-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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Which level? I find it very odd that someone with experience in both six-sigma and agile wouldn't see the obvious crossover and benefits from both, provided they are actually using both correctly. People who actually understand both see how they clearly benefit from each other.
There are definitely crossover benefits. I was refering to direct use.

For instance, someone upthread mentioned working in a legal office. If they wanted to improve their legal documents processing, they would do a six sigma project. They wouldn't immediately jump to agile.

If the six sigma project required a technology change, that tech project would be done using agile.

Yes, non technology projects can use agile but if the focus is process improvement, six sigma is a better fit.
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Old 05-07-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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There are definitely crossover benefits. I was refering to direct use.

For instance, someone upthread mentioned working in a legal office. If they wanted to improve their legal documents processing, they would do a six sigma project. They wouldn't immediately jump to agile.

If the six sigma project required a technology change, that tech project would be done using agile.

Yes, non technology projects can use agile but if the focus is process improvement, six sigma is a better fit.
You were specifically responding to someone working in an IT organization, not a legal office. With respect, if you acknowledge there are crossover benefits, why would you incorrectly claim they are not in the same area, when they often can be?
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Old 05-07-2019, 12:55 PM
 
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I'm a Five Delta Brown Shoe.
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Old 05-07-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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You were specifically responding to someone working in an IT organization, not a legal office. With respect, if you acknowledge there are crossover benefits, why would you incorrectly claim they are not in the same area, when they often can be?
No, what I said was they are separate methodologies. If you read that person's post, it sounded like they were implying that their company went from using Six Sigma to using Agile. That's not a linear progression. Now, if they said they used Six Sigma and then added in Agile, that would make sense.
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