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Old 05-23-2019, 06:14 PM
 
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"... I can say 100% we just want people to get along..."
well, that is a new attitude here on C-P. congratulations.
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Old 05-23-2019, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Houston
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A fellow supervisor once went to our plant manager because I called him lazy. The plant manager called me in to talk about it. I explained why the supervisor was lazy. It was quite an eye opener for the plant manager. That supervisor is now closely watched.

If you actually are lazy it is best to be quiet.
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Old 05-23-2019, 06:26 PM
 
Location: HoCo, MD
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Because this is a company, a place of business, not a school yard.

It is important to take care of these things immediately. If you allow yourself to be treated poorly, others will do the same and you will quickly get the reputation for what they said about you is true, even if it isn't. There is a degree of professionalism in the work place, and it isn't up to others to "manage" you. If your supervisor has an issue, they will talk with you one-on-one.

It is up to management to deal with someone acting unprofessionally, not the OP. So they would deal with this person.
And companies are comprised of people - who may have disagreements from time to time. Managers are not babysitters. Running to your teacher/manager IS schoolyard behavior. In a professional environment, you address it immediately by communicating with the person who offended you. Perhaps try and better understand the situation (maybe YOU said something that got this going, they're just having a really bad day, or, maybe they have decided to become a raging jerk,). From the OP - it wasn't clear if this is an isolated situation or a bigger problem.

If it's a recurring issue and you have tried to address it - Then I'd agree that you would escalate this. As a manager - my first response to someone coming to me would have been "have you talked to them about this"? The only caveat would be, again, if this was patterned behavior.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:10 PM
 
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Has there been a time when you told and it is was received poorly?
From my personal work experience either management talked to this person to correct their behavior or fired them. I've never had it received poorly. Chances are very good that if you have an issue with someone's unprofessional behavior, you aren't the only one.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:13 PM
 
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Hate to be Captain Obvious here but are you lazy?
If so, then you have no right to take offense at her accurate observation of you.
Actually HEAR her words

She may have called attention to your flaws so don't go further calling more attention to yourself
Unless you want to be fired
Pull your own weight at work

Then no one will become frustrated with you calling you "lazy"
No, this is completely wrong. Even before I was in charge of a group, if I seriously want to offer constructive feedback to someone, I did it privately, not at a meeting in front of others. That's simply unprofessional.

You can't explain away that this person was doing the OP and the team a favor. This isn't sports with meathead coaches yelling at people, they are running a business, they have real work to do. There is professional and unprofessional conduct. This was unprofessional conduct, pure and simple.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:19 PM
 
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I will avoid the specifics but in the meeting my co-worker was very condescending and called me lazy. I stayed calm tried to get my points across but she was very argumentative and didnt listen to me. She was very unprofessional. Anyway I am thinking of going to my boss and explaining what happened calmly and asking for advice. I will say i still like my coworker, want to work with her, but I am confused by the criticism. Does she have advise. Is this a smart strategy? Boss will ask what had I done to address the issue with worker and I will say I tried to talk to her for an hour and she was combative.

I am afraid I will look as a complainer
Yeah, well, yours is only one side of that story that has at least two sides.

First thing: Does the accusation of "lazy" have any facts behind it? Have you been meeting reasonable expectations? Did you actually fail to do something you were rightly expected to do? Did your failure put that person on the spot or leave her in a lurch or leave her with more work than her share?

Second, when confronted by a manager, she's going to have her own version of "I said, she said."

And if she can present evidence that you failed to do work you were expected to do, you're not going to win that one.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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And companies are comprised of people - who may have disagreements from time to time. Managers are not babysitters.
No, they are managers and unprofessional behavior should be reported to them like the OP experienced so they can deal with it. This was no a disagreement. You must not be running a business, so you have no idea how much this kind of unprofessional behavior costs a business. I've seen metrics on this, and there is a clear business case to not allow this kind of attitude to continue, because it spreads. It isn't about if the OP can ignore it or not, it is about everyone being as productive as possible, and that isn't going to happen with someone who has become self-important and lectures others in a meeting about what they perceive to be about their work. It simply isn't their job and they have no business commenting on it. This has nothing to do with people disagreeing about something petty like which sports team they want to support or where to do for lunch that day, this is directly about work and that has to be dealt with professionally. So accept anything less is lowering the standards in the business and increase costs by lost productivity. People who can't see that don't have the experience to see what a negative impact this has on the organization. Again, this is a company, they aren't making a Western here.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:24 PM
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Location: Texas
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You have every right to speak up about this.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:47 PM
 
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Hate to be Captain Obvious here but are you lazy?
If so, then you have no right to take offense at her accurate observation of you.
Actually HEAR her words

She may have called attention to your flaws so don't go further calling more attention to yourself
Unless you want to be fired
Pull your own weight at work

Then no one will become frustrated with you calling you "lazy"
Do you know for a fact that she was lazy? If you don't , then I suggest that you stop making insinuations.
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Old 05-24-2019, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Seymour TN
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So jobseeker, did you report this?
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