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Old 06-09-2019, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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Seems like this company doesn't pay well across the board, but I agree, it depends on what part of the country you are in. In most cities, 25k for a receptionist and 75k for an accountant are both low, but the ratio is probably about right.
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Old 06-09-2019, 01:52 PM
 
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"I cannot feel good about myself holding you back from earning what you feel you should, so in an ultimate act of selflessness, I am firing you immediately. Go forth and make 70% of what a CPA earns. Make me proud.".
Posting of the week!
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Old 06-09-2019, 02:05 PM
 
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The young lady who works as our Receptionist is angry at her paycheck. She is 27 years old and makes about $25,000 a year. She is a High School Graduate, knows how to type, use some functions of Microsoft Office and answers the phone and greets visitors. She overheard people talking about one of our Accountants making about $75,000 a year.

The Accountant has a Masters in Accounting and a CPA. (Certified Public Accountant) and had to pass all kinds of really hard classes in six years of college and get her CPA, which was very hard. She, the Accountant, is also 27 years old.

The Receptionist thinks it is OK for the Accountant to make a little more than she makes but not three times as much. She says they both work hard and she, the Receptionist, deserves at least 70% of the money the Accountant makes.

What should I tell her?
This post is completely fake.
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Naples FL
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I told her that in 15-20 years when the Accountant moves into management she will make 5-6 times the pay of a receptionist. She got even angrier.
Accountants make terrible senior managers .... people who start at Reception however tend to make quite good management material.

I don’t know why you even need to say anything at all to her anyway. Renumeration other then her own is now of her business. Mind you $25k is VERY low for a full time receptionist. I think ours are about $37k.
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:08 PM
 
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I know the OP is not a member anymore, but.....
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What should I tell her?
Tell her how much the CEO makes.
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Old 06-09-2019, 07:44 PM
 
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What if the receptionist is 90 IQ and their job function is at the limit of their intellectual capability? “You should have studied harder” is the classic libertarian view from people with the good fortune to be born smart and with good parents. That receptionist very well could only be capable of repetitive task jobs that pay at that level.
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She should be happy to have found a job commensurate to her limited abilities then, with fair market value based on those same limitations.
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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You can't forbid conversations about pay and you certainly can't punish people for discussing their salaries.

I find it's self punishment. No matter the place, when you look at an entire payroll, you're bound to find valuations attached to roles that one doesn't agree with. Been doing it for decades.


OP, if you choose to engage at all, put it this way. Stay away from the degree and focus on responsibilities. If the receptionist messes up, important messages could be lost, a meeting missed or someone misdirected. These are important things, but they can be corrected. If the accountant messes up and files a return considered fraudulent, the owner could go to jail, employees might not get payroll if cash is cut to short, and the bank could pull their loan. Both are important and need to be done well for the company to succeed, but one responsibility set, if done wrong, could permanently damage the company.



Brain surgeons make a tremendous salary. In part there's schooling, but how many people are truly cut out to have a person's life in their hands? That's a ton of responsibility.



Own more processes, take on more responsibilities and go into your review showing you have given more value than the year before. That's easy to reward with an increase.
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Old 06-10-2019, 02:15 AM
 
Location: Brookhaven
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I would go find a new receptionist. There will be no making her happy.
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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There's nothing wrong with demanding a pay that will allow you to live at the poverty line. $15/hour full time is $2400/month, or $28,000 a year, probably with no benefits.
$15/hr full time is $31,200 annually or $2600 per month
$28,000 annual is $13.46/hr
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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Tell her that since she doesn't have a degree, she has to work her way up the corporate ladder to get that money.
You have to prove yourself, likely a whole bunch of times. But this is still a doable thing.

I'm the opposite... I make more than many of the more degreed people.
I'm not saying anything, don't want to make 'em cry.
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