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Old 06-07-2019, 07:43 AM
 
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Actually... NLRB regulations guarantee the right of employees to discuss their salaries. Company rules about it are illegal. That said, my entire message to the receptionist is "Boo-hoo."
Wouldn't it depend on HOW that information was shared. If the Accountant and the Secretary voluntarily shout out their info to the office, then fine. Whatever. But, someone who works in HR, Payroll, etc.. definitely can't go around telling everyone how much everyone else make.
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Old 06-07-2019, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Wouldn't it depend on HOW that information was shared. If the Accountant and the Secretary voluntarily shout out their info to the office, then fine. Whatever. But, someone who works in HR, Payroll, etc.. definitely can't go around telling everyone how much everyone else make.
Culture and company preference are strong, yes. But the law boils down to saying that it's not secret or proprietary information. Confidentiality about income is culture, not law.

Doesn't really matter, here. The receptionist is an idiot.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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Regardless of the OP's status, in the interest of actual discussion, the only pertinent item is what is the market rate for receptionists in whatever fictional competitive area the job is located. Any other pay comparison is apples to green beans.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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Why do we need to bring age into this? I have an employee in his 50s who feels the same way. He firmly believes that his low skilled job should be paid equally with our highest paid, highest skilled employees.
Fair point. However I have seen this attitude more in younger workers today than 20 years ago when I was at the same stage. Partly I think itís due to the lack of loyalty on behalf of the employer, partly due to lack of commitment by the employee.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:19 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Most companies don't even allow conversations like that. Surprised an office manager wouldn't know that.
You can't forbid conversations about pay and you certainly can't punish people for discussing their salaries.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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I've told this story, but I had a good friend who was far more brilliant and educated (Masters, UCLA) than his position as wrecking yard operator might indicate. He told with relish the story of a young socialista who worked for him as a counter man and complained about his hourly rate. Deft management of the discussion led to the revelation that anyone who made more than this guy "made too much." This was around 1990.

I see the mindset still exists.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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I would tell her that she could make that much too if she had the same qualifications. We had one admin in Legal who took advantage of our tuition reimbursement program and went to law school. She is now one of our lawyers.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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I would tell her that she could make that much too if she had the same qualifications. We had one admin in Legal who took advantage of our tuition reimbursement program and went to law school. She is now one of our lawyers.
We hired young, life-dumb workers around 20, with no real career plans. Half became highly certified providers ($60k). More than a dozen got BAs and MAs in the field, with our support, and filled our senior staff ranks. After we closed down and relocated, two or three started companies of their own in the field.

The ones who thought the senior staff were overpaid... moved on.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Surfside Beach, SC
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The young lady who works as our Receptionist is angry at her paycheck. She is 27 years old and makes about $25,000 a year. She is a High School Graduate, knows how to type, use some functions of Microsoft Office and answers the phone and greets visitors. She overheard people talking about one of our Accountants making about $75,000 a year.

The Accountant has a Masters in Accounting and a CPA. (Certified Public Accountant) and had to pass all kinds of really hard classes in six years of college and get her CPA, which was very hard. She, the Accountant, is also 27 years old.

The Receptionist thinks it is OK for the Accountant to make a little more than she makes but not three times as much. She says they both work hard and she, the Receptionist, deserves at least 70% of the money the Accountant makes.

What should I tell her?
In another thread, you said that you sit up front so that all who come in the office see you first, with all of your perfect extreme beauty. Where does this receptionist sit? Do the two of you sit up front together?

How bizarre!
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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I would pay her more. Just because that's below minimum wage here.


(Technically no, minimum wage is $12.00, she makes $12.02, but because you have contracts worth over $25k with the city of Boston, $14.82 is the minimum you can pay employees)
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