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Old 06-07-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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I would pay her more. Just because that's below minimum wage here.


(Technically no, minimum wage is $12.00, she makes $12.02, but because you have contracts worth over $25k with the city of Boston, $14.82 is the minimum you can pay employees)
You're assuming she's full-time. Receptionists often aren't.

The accountant likely isn't "full time," either, not if 40/wk is the definition.
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Old 06-07-2019, 09:27 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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In the companies I’ve worked at, we’re not allowed to discuss matters related to compensation among other staff. Compensation can only be discussed with HR and Management.
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Old 06-07-2019, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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In the companies I’ve worked at, we’re not allowed to discuss matters related to compensation among other staff. Compensation can only be discussed with HR and Management.
And again, the law is 100% on your side - while I wouldn't breach the policy because they can fire you for any reason at all, it is illegal for a company to mandate silence about compensation. It is your regulated right as employees to discuss it.

But culture is a powerful thing and few companies are ever even cited, much less prosecuted for handing down such codes of silence.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: East of the Mississippi and South of Bluegrass
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The young lady who works as our Receptionist is angry at her paycheck. She is 27 years old and makes about $25,000 a year. She is a High School Graduate, knows how to type, use some functions of Microsoft Office and answers the phone and greets visitors. She overheard people talking about one of our Accountants making about $75,000 a year.

The Accountant has a Masters in Accounting and a CPA. (Certified Public Accountant) and had to pass all kinds of really hard classes in six years of college and get her CPA, which was very hard. She, the Accountant, is also 27 years old.

The Receptionist thinks it is OK for the Accountant to make a little more than she makes but not three times as much. She says they both work hard and she, the Receptionist, deserves at least 70% of the money the Accountant makes.

What should I tell her?
Our $25,000 Receptionist is mad that a company Accountant makes $75,000

Despite her not being degreed, there may be other ways in which she may increase her salary which you could probably advise her. Such as taking on other responsibilities while maintaining her position as the receptionist, adding a little more variety to her work. Maybe she could benefit with a professional makeover in her clothing selection, make-up and hairstyle perhaps. After all, and from reading your previous posts here you could make her your protégé and enlighten her on the various ways for her to stand out in this environment.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:36 AM
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Location: Texas
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I did not give the receptionist the salary of the accountant. It was passed along in general conversation. The accountant told someone who told someone else, etc.
This is all "he said, she said" which means it's meaningless and you shouldn't address it with her. She might not have been upset or actually used the words that were assigned to her.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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[quote=scorpio516;55368194]I would pay her more. Just because that's below minimum wage here.


Maybe you can recruit her if she sounds like a person you want to hire
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Florida and New England
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You can't forbid conversations about pay and you certainly can't punish people for discussing their salaries.
You can fire an employee for conversing about someone else's salary -- it is not her information to disclose. People are allowed to disclose / cry / moan about their own pay, but management would be well served to discourage loose talk about salaries. People who make a professional salary often internalize this cultural standard of discretion, in contrast to people like the OP's receptionist.

To the OP: fire her and give no reason -- just tell her she is not a good fit.
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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I did not give the receptionist the salary of the accountant. It was passed along in general conversation. The accountant told someone who told someone else, etc.

The receptionist does not think just having a piece of paper (A MA Degree and a CPA) should mean that they make three times more than her. I told her that in 15-20 years when the Accountant moves into management she will make 5-6 times the pay of a receptionist. She got even angrier.

What is a fair wage difference between our 27-year-old Receptionist and our 27-year-old Accountant?

Why are you so focused on their ages? That has nothing to do with it. The salary criteria are education, experience, and specs/components of the position.

It's hard to believe that this employee can't distinguish between the duties of a receptionist and those of an accountant.
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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The Receptionist thinks it is OK for the Accountant to make a little more than she makes but not three times as much. She says they both work hard and she, the Receptionist, deserves at least 70% of the money the Accountant makes.

What should I tell her?
The receptionist will have to accept the fact that a job like a CPA makes more money because NOT everyone can do it. Jobs like CPA, engineer, nurse, lawyer, need MORE education and often times, a LICENSE, to do the job. A receptionist, anyone can do it. That's why it's lower pay. Same as why warehouse, restocking shelves, picking/shipping jobs pay so little - because ANYONE can do it. Even a lower level accounting job like A/P and A/R make way less than a CPA, which makes sense. Anyone can walk into the office and trained on the job to do it.

Your receptionist will have to swallow her unhappiness or light the fire under her behind to pick a niche job that needs more education to do. Or if she likes support jobs, get Microsoft Office certified. Be willing to accept more responsibility. Some administration jobs pay much more than $25K.

Society is set up that people with more education in a SPECIALIZED area that NOT EVERYONE can do will always get pay more, and this is fair. People with education in a specialized area SHOULD get higher pay, and they do.

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Old 06-07-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Why are you so focused on their ages? That has nothing to do with it. The salary criteria are education, experience, and specs/components of the position.
Which age gives a rough indication of. If the ages were 22 and 52, the situation would go from inappropriate to completely absurd.
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