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Old 06-09-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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So explain exactly what it is I was supposed to do?

I don't actually sit that close to this person, our offices are on opposite ends of the suite. I have no idea of her comings and goings and couldn't say at any given time whether she's even in her office, never mind where she is if she's not there.

So no, there was no "minimal amount of direction" involved here - although I could repeat for the 6th time that I am always happy to help someone locate an office and I do that on probably a daily basis or very close to it.

But that's not what was asked here, and I am genuinely at a loss as to what it is you think I should have done differently to help locate a person whose whereabouts I had no idea of and no access to any information about it.
All you needed to do was say "I'm sorry, but I haven't seen X. Would you like to wait in their office?"

No one in this thread thinks you should have known where X was. All they've done is respond to your original question that it is elitist to think someone shouldn't have asked you "Do you know where X is?" DubbleT said this earlier in the thread.

I've highlighted below what people are responding to in your original post. Take a moment to see how those words come across as very elitist, which is the question you asked.


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...Someone just poked their head into my office to say that they were here for a meeting with a different person who happens to be in an office on the other side of the suite. I looked blankly at him, point him back across the office suite and said "that person's office is over there." He said oh, no one was over there.

So a) what am I supposed to do about that, and b) isn't it somewhat rude to interrupt a person working in a private office with the assumption that they can help you with what is essentially a receptionist question, never mind that I don't even work in the same department.

I'm in a private office which, as in most workplaces these days, are limited to people who are typically in a higher level position especially in a work area where some people are in cubicles but others aren't. Am I being elitist to think that someone should realize that people with private offices are not fair game to interrupt just because the person they came to see doesn't happen to be in their own office?
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Old 06-09-2019, 02:55 PM
 
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The fact that somebody deigned to ask you about the whereabouts of someone else stuck in your craw enough that you thought it was worthy of a thread on this forum. Most people would have forgotten about it five minutes later.

I've had people come into my office and ask where so-and-so was, too, over the years, but I didn't react the way you did.

Maybe you need to do some self-examination as to why you had such an overreaction to a nothing incident. It could help you learn something about yourself that might be getting in the way.
Amen!

I once had someone flag me down on my own street from their car to ask where the Publix is and that their GPS directed them to my street. My street is miles away from Publix, nowhere near it....it was puzzling how someone could become so lost and think that a grocery store would be smack dab in the middle of a neighborhood like that too. But you know what? I helped the guy out and directed him where to go and never thought about it again..........until now.
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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All you needed to do was say "I'm sorry, but I haven't seen X. Would you like to wait in their office?"

No one in this thread thinks you should have known where X was. All they've done is respond to your original question that it is elitist to think someone shouldn't have asked you "Do you know where X is?" DubbleT said this earlier in the thread.

I've highlighted below what people are responding to in your original post. Take a moment to see how those words come across as very elitist, which is the question you asked.
The person asked me where X was, which is why I found it odd. Not where X's office was, but where X was. And I have no authority to invite someone to wait in someone else's office, nor do I have a key to unlock someone else's office.

And of course, I did respond to the person to say sorry, I don't know - except that most of the replies here have suggested that there was more I should have said or done, without actually giving a suggestion of what. At least you gave a suggestion, even if it was kind of a weird suggestion IMO, since of course I don't have a key to her office.

And it's not really that I think someone shouldn't ask me where X is, it's more why they would think I would know. Even if we were in the same department, why would anyone think that people keep track of their co-workers' whereabouts, esp. if their offices are not even close to each other even if in the same larger work area. That's why I was so taken aback by being asked, it just seemed to me like a weird thing to think someone else could answer.

In any case, sure, yes, I plead guilty to being elitist, I guess. Every office I've worked in over the past few decades has had the same general layout - private offices on the outer perimeter, cubicle workstations in the middle. And yes, higher level positions get the private offices. Personally I take that as a signal that the person is perhaps working on more complicated tasks, and I try to not disturb someone unnecessarily. People rarely wander back to my little corner area anyway, unless they are there specifically to see someone in that area, so I prefer to not close my door as it gets stuffy when I do (the joys of working in a 90-something year old building!) so I generally only do when I'm on a conference call or having a meeting of my own.
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:52 PM
 
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But that isn't what happened here, they asked where another person physically was because they weren't in their office. And I have zero way of knowing that, and yes, I still find it weird that the person who asked me and apparently people posting on this thread think it's reasonable for co-workers to keep track of the whereabouts of the other workers.

In this case, I am not the person's supervisor, and I don't even work in the same department. I just happen to have an office in the same general area where they have an office. So no, I don't know (nor have access to) their schedule. I don't know where they are right now. There is no person to call to answer that question. I don't know where they schedule their meetings if they are somewhere besides their office.

I have worked in MANY places where people communicate about where they are going to other people, regardless of whether or not it directly affects others. Even though the guy knew who he was looking for, he doesn't know your set-up that intimately, does he? Does he know which people belong to what department given that you said the set-up of this office isn't that great?

One time I was alone in my area and I had to run out. At the time, the EVS guy was around and I told him where I was going in case someone was looking for me. He has nothing to do with my department but given that I was the only person available for my department and someone could be looking for me at any minute, I just let him know since he was in the area.

I honestly cannot believe someone is that worked up over one incident. You sound so agitated in your posts. And instead of wondering why everyone else seems to disagree with you, it's more than likely that everyone else on CD is a dolt and doesn't get it. Got it.
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Orange County
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This sounds very petty to me. I could care less if someone comes around to my office asking anything. You must not be a very friendly person.
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Old 06-09-2019, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I have worked in MANY places where people communicate about where they are going to other people, regardless of whether or not it directly affects others. Even though the guy knew who he was looking for, he doesn't know your set-up that intimately, does he? Does he know which people belong to what department given that you said the set-up of this office isn't that great?

One time I was alone in my area and I had to run out. At the time, the EVS guy was around and I told him where I was going in case someone was looking for me. He has nothing to do with my department but given that I was the only person available for my department and someone could be looking for me at any minute, I just let him know since he was in the area.

I honestly cannot believe someone is that worked up over one incident. You sound so agitated in your posts. And instead of wondering why everyone else seems to disagree with you, it's more than likely that everyone else on CD is a dolt and doesn't get it. Got it.
Yes, I'm sure you walk through a full office suite, telling all of the ~20 people you pass as you walk past the front door of the suite and down the other side, where you are going every time you leave your office.

In any case, I'm not worked up, I'm actually pretty amused at how people feel compelled to make up completely fake scenarios to criticize me over. I guess it's been a slow weekend, but I'm sure someone else will post something worthy of a fresh pile on first thing tomorrow morning.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:07 PM
 
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Yes, I'm sure you walk through a full office suite, telling all of the ~20 people you pass as you walk past the front door of the suite and down the other side, where you are going every time you leave your office.

In any case, I'm not worked up, I'm actually pretty amused at how people feel compelled to make up completely fake scenarios to criticize me over. I guess it's been a slow weekend, but I'm sure someone else will post something worthy of a fresh pile on first thing tomorrow morning.
CORRECTION: You created the scenario and asked for opinions. Impartial observers gave you answers you did not care to accept so you have pushed back at every turn.

Almost unanimously those responding believe you did nothing constructive to assist the two coworkers who had misconnected. That may not be in your job description or fiber but it certainly does nothing to forward the mission of the organization that not only employs you but has given you a position of responsibility, even if that responsibility is not within the department of those you might have tried to assist.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:16 PM
 
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Nope. I wait until after, then I'll ask or add something in.

At my job, people are notorious about cutting people off and saying something. One day I had had enough. I straight up told them to shut up because I'm talking. Also told them that I always had enough respect for people to not cut in and show me the same courtesy.

It worked, and still works. When they're talking and someone cuts in, I get up and leave. I don't care if it's something important.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:24 PM
 
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Almost unanimously those responding believe you did nothing constructive to assist the two coworkers who had misconnected.
There really wasn't much, if anything, "constructive" that she could have done. Drop everything and physically look for the other person? Page her and "make calls on the person with the appointment's behalf?" Since he was another employee, he could have easily done these things himself. Maybe she should have checked the bathrooms? Come on.

OP, you're right — slow weekend on C-D and they're looking for a characteristic pile-on.

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Old 06-09-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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There really wasn't much, if anything, "constructive" that she could have done. Drop everything and physically look for the other person? Page him and "make calls on his behalf?" Since he was another employee, he could have easily done these things himself. Maybe she should have checked the bathrooms? Come on.

OP, you're right — slow weekend on C-D and they're looking for a characteristic pile-on.
Based on the Original Post and follow ups by the Original Poster it appears she was hoping for the "characteristic pile-on" to be heaped upon her coworker who had the temerity to disturb her while seeking a modicum of assistance.

It's not as if he was sure she didn't know anything about the other coworker with whom he was supposed to meet or that he interrupted the OP in her performance of CPR or some other critical exercise. Perhaps he just thought that being enshrined in her own office she might have more of an attitude of cooperation at least with her own coworkers, who in theory at least should share the common goals of the organozation.
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