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(LifeWire) -- At Sara Champion's previous job as a project engineer for one of the country's top construction firms, visible tattoos for professional staff were against company policy.
She found this ironic -- not to mention frustrating -- given that her position entailed inspecting job sites filled with tattooed construction workers.
I worked for UPS for years and they had strict appearance policies for employees who were in public contact positions.
Hair could not be longer than the shirt collar. If it was, it had to be put up in a hat. Tatoos could not be visible when in uniform. Shoes had to be black or brown of polishable leather. No jewelry.
We had people who worked in the building loading/sorting/etc. who were broadly tatooed. Wildly tatooed even. Those people had no chance of ever moving into a higher paying public contact position.
When they chose to get those tatoos, they chose to limit their career options. Their choice.
Las Vegas police and other police departments are following suit as well. If the tattoo is visible when wearing your uniform, then you get docked points against promotional exams as well as the standard entrance exams.
But they have no problem with people with tattoos putting their ass in the line of fire on some foreign battlefield.
I do not have any tattoos, but I do think it is ridiculous to judge someone by them.
When someone comes to my aid, i.e. police, I want the best person for the job, not one who got promoted because the better person had a tattoo on their arm.
When they chose to get those tatoos, they chose to limit their career options. Their choice.
I disagree, those people were exercising their right to do as they please with themselves.
It is my beleif that companies have no right to discriminate against tattoos no more than what political party or religion someone is, both of which are choices.
Without freedom of choice, what kind of society are we and what is our purpose to exist?
For a country that preaches about tolerance to everyone else in the world, I find we are some of the most intolerant people in the world, especially the western world.
By the same token then, company's are exercising their right to hire whom they please. And if they don't please to hire people with tatoos, they don't do it.
I disagree, those people were exercising their right to do as they please with themselves.
It is my beleif that companies have no right to discriminate against tattoos no more than what political party or religion someone is, both of which are choices.
Without freedom of choice, what kind of society are we and what is our purpose to exist?
For a country that preaches about tolerance to everyone else in the world, I find we are some of the most intolerant people in the world, especially the western world.
People with tatoos are often perceived as screwballs. A company has a right to decide how it wants it's management people and people who publicly represent it to be perceived.
I'm the biggest left-wing trade unionist on this forum but I recognize management has certain rights over it's managers. If those managers don't want to play the game they can stay with the tools.
As for tolerence, well I only fell obliged to tolerate things people have no control over---race, ethnicity, gender, age and such.
Your opinion, but many, many will disagree with it (including me). Way to many people want to "buck" the rules/policies today and just "don't their own thing"......I don't think so!! At 59 yrs. old, I've had plenty of opportunities to get tattoo's, but thought about my future (work, relationships, whatever) and decided against it. My choice and I'm glad that I made that choice.
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Originally Posted by k350
But they have no problem with people with tattoos putting their ass in the line of fire on some foreign battlefield.
I do not have any tattoos, but I do think it is ridiculous to judge someone by them.
When someone comes to my aid, i.e. police, I want the best person for the job, not one who got promoted because the better person had a tattoo on their arm.
Totally agree with this! We all have choices to make in life, make the wrong ones and.........
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Originally Posted by azoria
Not unusual.
I worked for UPS for years and they had strict appearance policies for employees who were in public contact positions.
Hair could not be longer than the shirt collar. If it was, it had to be put up in a hat. Tatoos could not be visible when in uniform. Shoes had to be black or brown of polishable leather. No jewelry.
We had people who worked in the building loading/sorting/etc. who were broadly tatooed. Wildly tatooed even. Those people had no chance of ever moving into a higher paying public contact position.
When they chose to get those tatoos, they chose to limit their career options. Their choice.
By the same token then, company's are exercising their right to hire whom they please. And if they don't please to hire people with tatoos, they don't do it.
Exactly the same thing.
Actually, companies do not have the right to hire who they chose.
They can not discriminate based on what the gov has outlined, it is unfortunate that we live in a society where the gov actually has to have rules so companies (i.e. people) will not discriminate against others.
Discriminating against someone with a tattoo is discrimination, the US grants freedom to people to be individuals, and companies are trumping that right.
It is no different than hiring someone based on a religion because religion is a choice.
And as I said, I would want someone who is best for the job, when a firefighter comes to rescue me, I hope they were the best qualified, not selected because the best qualified person had a tattoo.
Also, it seems companies have no problems with people with tattoos sacrificing their lives in order to allow them to freely operate inside the US.
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