Can I submit 'formal request' for title and salary change?

[Jane0218]

Originally Posted by Dave1215

I would not lead with your title page the way you have it - that immediately sets me up on the defensive that all you are about is your title and you want a pay raise.... when in fact its not that at all.... its all about the job duties aligning with the job description... once the duties align with the description then determine if your current pay reflects the market price for those duties, but that's secondary... your first priority is agreement on the duties/description.

Bottom line for me would be the one or two page description with its strike outs and additions, then an open discussion around that.

That makes a lot of sense. You're right, I would get on the defensive if I was presented with what I suggested myself. Thanks.

[Dave1215]

Originally Posted by Jane0218

That makes a lot of sense. You're right, I would get on the defensive if I was presented with what I suggested myself. Thanks.

Once you are in agreement on the job description and duties then bring up the topic of the market value for that "new" position... and any adjustment to bring you up to the market value (assuming its an upward movement and not downward)...

[Jane0218]

Originally Posted by Dave1215

I would take the copy of the description, strike through the things on there that you don't believe belond and add to it the things that you do think fit. For the added things be sure to underline those. (this strikethru of deletions and underline of additions is a common method of editing a document in legal and contract situations).

That way they see the actual old position, what stayed the same, what is proposed to be added and what is proposed to be removed. Makes it simple and clean.

If you just write a new one then they need to do the work to compare it to the current. Make their job simple and you'll have a better chance of them reading it.

I keep coming back to this post....I'm having a problem with this suggestion. It's a good suggestion, but I'm not sure I can use it because:
My job description consists of enforcing T & E policy through auditing of submissions, and then it names four duties that relate to supporting Accounts Payable. All I've had time for is the T & E part of my position.

It was evident my first week there was no control over the T & E submission/auditing process. My supervisors thought everything was fine until I started questioning things. They thought T & E auditing was basic and simple in nature My job is more of an 'analyst' than a 'processor.'

The company wasn't aware of of the complexity in ensuring compliance with corporate policy and IRS regulations for approximately 200 travelling consultants, especially having to reign in almost half of them who have been abusing the system. Within my first week I found duplicate airfare reimbursements, non-business related purchases, and other large ticket items that were paid to employees that should never been paid. (They have no formal authorization protocol here---no one signs off on anything---go figure).

So, after that first week, all I have done is handle straightening out the T & E process, finding employees who are abusing the system, and making dozens of recommendations to management. I am being treated as an equal by management at this point because I have knowledge that they don't. My days are spent of analyzing submissions, looking for duplicate expense submissions, trying to keep up with auditing about 100 submissions per week, compiling, processing and formulating all of what I see into policy and process change recommendations. I also have been assisting management in updating the travel policy, since they are not aware of how it should be presented.

I'm doing anything that's 'added.' I'm totally committed to T & E at this point, with no end in sight. My supervisor now knows this area was not attended to properly and that it finally is being taken care of (by me). Talk of my assisting A/P stopped after my 2nd week here.

So, I'm thinking that using striekouts and add-ins might actually work against me, since I'll strike out all but one of the duties of my job description. What I will be adding is how I need to conduct in-depth statistical trend analysis and analytical audits, utilizing electronic data other tools implemented by the department, of partner/staff T&E accounts to safeguard the firm's assets; detect audit concerns or irregularities that may lead to fraud; recommend and implement additional Microsoft Access queries to reduce areas of potential fraud; analyze and identify T&E non-compliance elements following firm policies and IRS regulations; assist department manager, using logic and strategical thinking, in developing/implementing new policies/procedures. And much more...

[alex100]

That way they see the actual old position, what stayed the same, what is proposed to be added and what is proposed to be removed. Makes it simple and clean.
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[tabbcat]

I hope you get your raise and title change You seem to be going about it the right way.

[Dave1215]

Originally Posted by alex100

That way they see the actual old position, what stayed the same, what is proposed to be added and what is proposed to be removed. Makes it simple and clean.
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That is exactly the perspective I was coming from when I suggested it...

[Jane0218]

Well, I ended up scanning 'T&E' help wanted ads throughout the US and used criteria and duties from those that I perform, added in my own specific responsibilities and created a position profile. The firm I work at is very similar to government agencies in how it categorizes positions. Certain responsibilites count for points that get you 'up' the salary ladder.

I received a very small salary increase and a title change. The salary increase did not put me anywhere near what a T&E Specialist's market salary is for my area.

Now it's several months later, the economy is in a spiral and I'm overworked and underpaid. Salary freezes were put in place, so in a way I'm lucky I got that small increase months ago. The job is a 3-person position--the stress is overwhelming and all-consuming. I'm not the only person in the US in a situation like this, of course...

I'll be looking for a new position. I've seen several T&E Specialist ads lately, probably due to the crumbling economy and companies needing to rein in expenses. In a way, my job is becoming more in demand. I'll go wherever I need to go to get paid what I'm worth.

Thanks to everyone for your responses and help along the way. I use city-data forums a lot and there are always helpful, insightful suggestions on it. I'm very happy I found this site.

Anyone looking for a T&E Specialist can send me a PM, if interested!