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Old 08-04-2008, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Texas
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After about a week I call and ask if they've filled the position. If they have, then I move on. If they haven't I give them another week and if I am not contacted I figure I didn't get the job.
I think this is good advice.
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Old 08-04-2008, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Default They are still looking is why

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"we will call you in a week" or "we will let you know in a week" usually means we like you but you don't stand out, so have no expectations after you hear that...
It is just like car buying...they might be interested, but they will let you walk, knowing you are still looking...
They are still looking. They are looking for the best and cheapest deal, and they don't want to tell you that they aren't choosing you right now, or you might go away.
If they hire Joe, and Joe doesn't work out or bend over, then they will call some of the other resumes they kept on hand. See, they want a bunch of people...and they don't want to look bad in front of their bosses, so if they hire Joe, thinking Joe is the best candidate, they think they have you as backup in the wings waiting patiently...

So, I would just keep looking. "Thank, hope to hear from you." And keep looking. Because THEY are.
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Everywhere
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How Rude!!!
Okay, but I don't like being told that they will call you and not mean it! It is a lie right there. I don't like being lied to. It only makes you feel like you look good in their eyes, when really you don't. They should come up with some other line, rather than hurt people's pride.
maybe I came off kind of strong......I always get grouchy right before I go to work.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Zebulon, NC
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I agree....look, if you are not hired on the spot, or you don't get told you are getting a second interview then just forget it. If you ever hear "well I have a few more to interview today before I make a decision, then just forget it, your not in.

Don't get the brush off. You have noting to lose. Ask if you qualify for the position, and then ask for the job or at least the 2nd interview. If they go all ho hum on you and tell you they will call, THEY NEVER WILL.
I worked in HR for years, and we never, ever hired anyone on the spot. Sometimes people had to be called back for second interviews with a different manager, but that wasn't always the case. Sometimes a manager had more than one qualified candidate, and needed some time to decide. Sometimes more than one manager had to make the decision together, which could take time. We also made sure to interviewed all the candidates we scheduled before making a decision. Even after all that, before we EVER made an offer, we always conducted background checks and called for references.

It could sometimes take up to a week or two before a decision was made. In any case, if a person was called in for an interview but not hired, I always sent a letter informing them. I never left anyone hanging. As far as the people who sent resumes but were not interviewed, we didn't respond - strictly because we would receive so many resumes, there wasn't the time to do so.
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:51 AM
 
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they can, and have a right to do what ever they want. no one has a RIGHT to hear from them. They are too busy trying to run a company to bother. If you folks don't like it, start your business and make your own rules. See if you want to call back or write back to 300 applicants who will most likely give you some kind of attitude or grief. The world does not revolve around whether you folks get your feelings hurt. Don't you folks get it. If you dont know at the interview if your hired....YOUR NOT. Its that simple.

Part of the HR dept. I worked in specifically sent out rejection letters to any candidates that may have applied. It is common courtesy. I RARELY see this anymore. It is lazy and rude if you are on second and THIRD interviews with companies!! Sending out a rejection letter or EMAIL this day in age would be helpful.It is a poor reflection on the company if the HR Dept. can't get off their lazy arses to do this.
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Everywhere
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I worked in HR for years, and we never, ever hired anyone on the spot. Sometimes people had to be called back for second interviews with a different manager, but that wasn't always the case. Sometimes a manager had more than one qualified candidate, and needed some time to decide. Sometimes more than one manager had to make the decision together, which could take time. We also made sure to interviewed all the candidates we scheduled before making a decision. Even after all that, before we EVER made an offer, we always conducted background checks and called for references.

It could sometimes take up to a week or two before a decision was made. In any case, if a person was called in for an interview but not hired, I always sent a letter informing them. I never left anyone hanging. As far as the people who sent resumes but were not interviewed, we didn't respond - strictly because we would receive so many resumes, there wasn't the time to do so.
well, you would be in huge danger of losing the best candidate. Believe me, that candidate isn't waiting around for your LONG LONG decision making. That person needs a job, and your not something special that he or she has to wait around for. I have never waited a week or two. I have always hired quickly and told the candidate that they are hired as long as the background checked out. Even today, there are a lot of employers hiring. If you want the second or 3rd best, then take your time. I'm going to grab the best from you. I always hire the same day, or announce 2ND interview date at the interview. Its just not right to play with peoples lives.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Everywhere
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Part of the HR dept. I worked in specifically sent out rejection letters to any candidates that may have applied. It is common courtesy. I RARELY see this anymore. It is lazy and rude if you are on second and THIRD interviews with companies!! Sending out a rejection letter or EMAIL this day in age would be helpful.It is a poor reflection on the company if the HR Dept. can't get off their lazy arses to do this.
To all you folks out there that are looking for Jobs: Do as I advise: Make sure you mention that you have other employers on your list, Mention that you already have some interest. Its like when I was dating. When I was with a girl, the other girls seemed more interested in what I had to offer, when I wasn't with anyone, Its seemed like I was a leper. Im always interested in people who other people are interested in. I dnnt want the comp to get that talent. Want to be hired quick, be in demand (or say you are).
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Zebulon, NC
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well, you would be in huge danger of losing the best candidate. Believe me, that candidate isn't waiting around for your LONG LONG decision making. That person needs a job, and your not something special that he or she has to wait around for. I have never waited a week or two. I have always hired quickly and told the candidate that they are hired as long as the background checked out. Even today, there are a lot of employers hiring. If you want the second or 3rd best, then take your time. I'm going to grab the best from you. I always hire the same day, or announce 2ND interview date at the interview. Its just not right to play with peoples lives.
I don't know where you get your accusations from. We didn't play with people's lives, and it wasn't "LONG LONG" decision making. Good grief - you certainly like to attack people who disagree with you!

The recruiting I did was for the corporate headquarters of a major international company. This is standard operating procedure for companies of this size. Most responsible employers conduct background checks and verify previous employment, as well as call for references before offering a position. Otherwise, you leave yourself vulnerable a lot of problems if they don't pass, and you have to rescind an offer. Most responsible candidates accustomed to working in a professional environment expected that this would be done. The best candidate wouldn't be some prima donna who would have a foot-stomping princess fit over not being hired the same day - so if the first choice were to do so, they would actually be doing us a favor.

I've been working for various companies, both large (5,000 + employees) and small (six employees) for almost 30 years now, and have never, ever expected to be offered a job the day of the interview. It's happened, but that exception was when I was hired by someone I had previously worked with, so no background check was necessary. I was also the only person they spoke to regarding the position.

The company I worked for also had a policy of promoting from within whenever possible. Therefore, the job opening had to be posted for a specific amount of time before an offer could be made. This was explained to each applicant. Another point - we usually made appointments with several applicants to come in for an interview. These applicants typically had to arrange their schedule (take time off work, arrange for child care, etc.) in order to make the appointment. We always made a point to keep each appointment.

If an applicant was going to throw a hissy-fit because they weren't offered the job on the spot, they weren't someone we wanted anyway.
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Where we enjoy all four seasons
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well, you would be in huge danger of losing the best candidate. Believe me, that candidate isn't waiting around for your LONG LONG decision making. That person needs a job, and your not something special that he or she has to wait around for. I have never waited a week or two. I have always hired quickly and told the candidate that they are hired as long as the background checked out. Even today, there are a lot of employers hiring. If you want the second or 3rd best, then take your time. I'm going to grab the best from you. I always hire the same day, or announce 2ND interview date at the interview. Its just not right to play with peoples lives.

sberdrow are you saying you work in HR? I am just curious because I believe that yesterday you said you waited on tables for a living on a different thread.
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:17 PM
 
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I don't know where you get your accusations from. We didn't play with people's lives, and it wasn't "LONG LONG" decision making. Good grief - you certainly like to attack people who disagree with you!

The recruiting I did was for the corporate headquarters of a major international company. This is standard operating procedure for companies of this size. Most responsible employers conduct background checks and verify previous employment, as well as call for references before offering a position. Otherwise, you leave yourself vulnerable a lot of problems if they don't pass, and you have to rescind an offer. Most responsible candidates accustomed to working in a professional environment expected that this would be done. The best candidate wouldn't be some prima donna who would have a foot-stomping princess fit over not being hired the same day - so if the first choice were to do so, they would actually be doing us a favor.

I've been working for various companies, both large (5,000 + employees) and small (six employees) for almost 30 years now, and have never, ever expected to be offered a job the day of the interview. It's happened, but that exception was when I was hired by someone I had previously worked with, so no background check was necessary. I was also the only person they spoke to regarding the position.

The company I worked for also had a policy of promoting from within whenever possible. Therefore, the job opening had to be posted for a specific amount of time before an offer could be made. This was explained to each applicant. Another point - we usually made appointments with several applicants to come in for an interview. These applicants typically had to arrange their schedule (take time off work, arrange for child care, etc.) in order to make the appointment. We always made a point to keep each appointment.

If an applicant was going to throw a hissy-fit because they weren't offered the job on the spot, they weren't someone we wanted anyway.
You are right Claire. Background checks (especially nowadays!)and criminal background checks, ....even credit checks are done now..........We would never hire someone in one day....................BUT at a casino in Vegas we did where I recruited!! If we were desperate to fill a position, we would send the person for drug test right on the spot...If they started saying, oh, I can't go today, well, we obviously knew they didn't "STUDY HARD ENOUGH"!! lol!! the criminal background check was sent out the same day and turnaround was a few days before they would go to orientation..Otherwise, we would have to give them the dreaded call of not reporting for orientation that day! Vegas is a different world though!!
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