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Old 08-09-2008, 02:12 PM
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I am searching for a new job, 5-1/2 years of heck is long enough for me. I have a third interview this coming week and was told to figure out what compensation I would need. I already know my salary is on the low side of what the former employee was making and so I'm comfortable that asking for her salary ( I have more experience - proven) will be accepted.

My question is: I know when I turn in my notice at my current employer, they will walk me straight out the door. I am probably asking too much, but won't my employer be required to pay my salary for the 2 weeks? I probably will start the new job right away if they walk me out, so it's not that important, but asking anyway. I live in a right to work state, so I'm probably out of luck.
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I am not in HR or anything, but I would have to say, No, they are not required to pay you for 2 weeks for leaving them for another job. I would give them a written 2 week notice and keep a copy for yourself for future reference if needed. If you have the other job already then good for you.
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Old 08-09-2008, 04:10 PM
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Only if there's a contracted termination policy agreeing to 2 weeks pay in place does your employer "owe" you two weeks salary upon your giving notice, especially if you're in a position where ... upon notice ... they'll immediately escort you out the door. That's a rather final move upon both your parts, and I don't see the employer paying you for services not rendered or wanted.

Professional courtesy would always be to give appropriate notice, just in case you need the reference in the future. With 5.5 years on this job, it's going to be on your resume for a long time.
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Old 08-09-2008, 04:20 PM
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I'm curious, why do some companies escort you out the door if you quit or are fired?

This does not happen in my current field, but I worked a job once before where a lady was fired, and they escorted her out as well. Are they in a hurry to get you out or what?
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Old 08-09-2008, 04:30 PM
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I'm curious, why do some companies escort you out the door if you quit or are fired?

This does not happen in my current field, but I worked a job once before where a lady was fired, and they escorted her out as well. Are they in a hurry to get you out or what?
It happens quite frequently in sales positions. They do not want you to have access to their customer list so that you can spend 2 weeks calling customers & telling them to follow you to your new position, they no longer want you to have access to pricing information, etc.

It is less about the employee and more about security.

I have never heard of a company paying an employee for work they do not perform. If you have a contract that stipulates payment they would be bound by that, but I have never seen it happen.
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Old 08-09-2008, 05:32 PM
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The one time I was laid off, I didn't know that you were supposed to act up and need to be escorted. I went through the company and said goodbye to people (while one saleswoman threw her files in the trash and spilled coffee on them, and the company had to change the access code to the front door once she was pushed out).
One of my co-workers helped me carry my stuff to my car, so I guess that was an escort. I didn't know I'd need one. I've never had one when I've given notice and worked out the last bit of time,and haven't known anyone to get escorted unless they're being fired or laid off. This includes a TV station, software companies, and hospitals.
But yes, if you're being fired or laid off, they might well do that.
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Old 08-09-2008, 05:51 PM
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I'm in sales and it is quite common to be escorted out as soon as you give notice. The last job I left I was not escorted out, but my email account and voicemail were shut down within an hour of me giving my notice. I just made sure that I had deleted all of my emails and kept any contacts that I needed before I gave notice.

It's actually pretty common to get walked to the door after you quit, so never take it personally.
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Old 08-09-2008, 06:35 PM
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I'm curious, why do some companies escort you out the door if you quit or are fired?
Simple - in some job functions, you become a liability as soon as you resign - regardless of how long you are willing to stay. As indicated, this can be the type of position you hold (sales, information security, certain IT positions, and many engineering positions), the employer's industry (the more secretive, the more likely you'll be escorted out), as well as where you're going (i.e. if you're leaving for the competitor).

As racelady mentioned, its not personal (at least not usually), but simply the company's way of minimizing risk and liability.
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:25 AM
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thanks everyone, that 's what I thought. I know at previous employers, when you give the notice, they want you to work out the notice, may move "privacy" type functions away from you and get you to clean up outstanding issues...'crap work" til a replacement can be found. But I thought...somewhere deep in the creavasses of my brain they would pay me 'in lieu" of working, since I did plan on working, they chose to escort me out. I have always worked hard up to the last day just because that's the way I was raised. I am employed to do a good job, and have the responsibility to do a good job, and wouldn't feel right slacking off....

Actually , I expect to be escorted out as the COO has been "eliminating" all those that were hired before he came to the company....no loyalty for previous employees, bringing in his friends and their minions, of course at higher salaries. I'm glad to be getting out before this place implodes with the top heavy manager salaries...
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I am not in HR or anything, but I would have to say, No, they are not required to pay you for 2 weeks for leaving them for another job. I
well then why are we required to give 2 weeks notice? They can fire you without a 2 week notice and not have to pay you so why do people have to give a 2 week notice? if you're fired they don't have to pay you for 2 weeks after so I feel people shouldn't have to give 2 week notices. If your new job pays more is your old company going to subsidize the salary you would've made by starting there right away? I think the notion of 2 week notices is a bit silly, especially when you're an "at will" employee.
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