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Old 10-03-2008, 10:09 AM
 
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There are lots of j0bs that don't require overtime. Get one of those.But many better paying positions require overtime as mine did. Goes with the job is the way I viewed it.
I think the problem is, MANY employers say things like "May require overtime as needed" but then it never actually happens, while a few others say the same thing and you find yourself in a nonstop, mandatory OT situation.

It's been my experience that it doesn't matter how much or how little the job pays. It's about management and hiring and planning and so forth.

Seriously, if you took a job that had the disclaimer of OT being needed from time to time, what would you be expecting? I know I never imagined this to ever mean mandatory 60 hour weeks for MONTHS on end, especially after having worked for that company for over a year before this started, and having had times where I couldn't even get 40 hours.

I know people who seek out certain jobs where they know they'll get LOADS of OT and that's fine... but I think it's a bit different when you never see it coming and it's not a temporary situation.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:15 AM
 
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Right to work states gives companies that flexiblity as well. But using temps doesnt save companies any money? If it wasnt for money why would companies use them? At the end of the day its all about the bottom line. And companies do all sort of things to protect their bottom line......Including using temps inistead of Regular employees, hiring part time workers so they dont have to shell out for benefits, hell even using interns. I never said using temps didnt cost any money but if a company is requiring a whole team or dept to work overtime that they have to pay for on a regular basis that they are paying time and a half for...obviously there is a staffing issue and they need to look into other avenues to get the help they need. Ie temps, interns, part timers.
Even in right to work states if an employer fires you for no good cause they still have to pay the unemployment.

Temps are good because the Temp agencies has already screened the employee for you. You may just need the temp for a short time to fill in on a large project. That way you don't have to hire someone and when the project is finished fire them. They go back to the Temp agencies and sign up for another job.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:37 PM
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Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Even in right to work states if an employer fires you for no good cause they still have to pay the unemployment.

Temps are good because the Temp agencies has already screened the employee for you. You may just need the temp for a short time to fill in on a large project. That way you don't have to hire someone and when the project is finished fire them. They go back to the Temp agencies and sign up for another job.
Thats what Ive been saying but others on here seem to think that ppl should quit complaining and just work the overtime. Mind you some of these companies requiring overtime arent paying for it.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:41 PM
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Location: Atlanta, Ga
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I think the problem is, MANY employers say things like "May require overtime as needed" but then it never actually happens, while a few others say the same thing and you find yourself in a nonstop, mandatory OT situation.

It's been my experience that it doesn't matter how much or how little the job pays. It's about management and hiring and planning and so forth.

Seriously, if you took a job that had the disclaimer of OT being needed from time to time, what would you be expecting? I know I never imagined this to ever mean mandatory 60 hour weeks for MONTHS on end, especially after having worked for that company for over a year before this started, and having had times where I couldn't even get 40 hours.

I know people who seek out certain jobs where they know they'll get LOADS of OT and that's fine... but I think it's a bit different when you never see it coming and it's not a temporary situation.
Exactly....ppl arent comlaining about just having to do OT but are complaining because companies act as if ppl dont have responsibilties outside of work or that companies dont want to fix the situation which is to hire more ppl (temps or otherwise). Working employees so hard doesnt create a nice work environment it brings down moral.
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Old 10-03-2008, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Thats what Ive been saying but others on here seem to think that ppl should quit complaining and just work the overtime. Mind you some of these companies requiring overtime arent paying for it.
I'd like to have overtime, but my company get's upset if you have so much as 15 minutes of it.

I'd be like "PLEASE can I have more overtime!"
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Old 10-03-2008, 05:28 PM
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Location: Atlanta, Ga
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I'd like to have overtime, but my company get's upset if you have so much as 15 minutes of it.

I'd be like "PLEASE can I have more overtime!"
OT isnt always a bad thing. I just dont like companies pimping their employees. The ones that dont pay you time and a half even if youve worked over 40 hrs or the ones that make everyone work 60 hour work weeks. I have a life and other things to do outside of work. Now if this is for a short period fine but for months on end...they can keep it.
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Old 10-03-2008, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Major Metro
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OT isnt always a bad thing. I just dont like companies pimping their employees. The ones that dont pay you time and a half even if youve worked over 40 hrs or the ones that make everyone work 60 hour work weeks. I have a life and other things to do outside of work. Now if this is for a short period fine but for months on end...they can keep it.
It may sound harsh but with 287,142 people losing their jobs during the 3rd quarter (the largest number since 2005 and expected to be worse by the end of the year), count your blessings that you have a job to complain that you're so "needed" you have to work more hours. The fact is, if you only want to work 40 hours a week and/or be paid for any hours over 40, be a nonexempt employee. Companies are less likely to have you work too many hours over 40 because it's expensive and if you do work the hours you're getting paid time and a half. If they don't pay as required, you have a legal claim. Now these jobs usually pay a lot less than exempt jobs but it gives you what you're looking for. There are way more nonexempt jobs available than exempt so they should be easier to pursue.
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Old 04-14-2011, 07:36 PM
 
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I am dealing with this, and it's driving me nuts!!! I am trying to take night classes, so I can learn some kind of skill. But I work ten hours a day, four days a week. Overtime is Friday, sometimes Saturday. If I work overtime, I have very little time to study and rest. If I don't study, I'll flunk the courses, and won't learn anything. I don't want to be stuck in this non-skilled rut all my life!!!
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Old 04-15-2011, 09:54 PM
 
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Why is it that one of the many laws not out there to protect the American worker is one regarding mandatory overtime? How much overtime can a company force you to work and why should they be allowed to threaten the loss of your job if you don't want to work more than the 40hour work week you agreed to when hired (then 4 weeks later they move to mandatory 5 10's and 8 on Saturday?) Some of us go home and have to take care of our children while our spouses are working their 14-16hour work days.

I am just curious how companies are allowed to FORCE overtime on anyone. It is so hard to find a full time job anymore that doesn't require more than 40-45hour work week
I'd love mandatory overtime back. I didn't mind the extra hours during the week and Saturdays, we haven't had it in 2 years. Actually, no overtime at all. I say do it while you can and love that huge paycheck! I'm sure somewhere in their manual they have a "we can give you mandatory OT" clause. Mine says " Extra hours can be required and you are expected to work the extra hours as assigned" I know my work policies like that back of my hand, and everyone should make sure they know them too.
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:53 AM
 
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I used to work mandatory overtime for the govt during the holiday season. It was mandatory 12 hour days and this went on for about 3 wks prior to Xmas. Or maybe started after Thanksgiving. But it was the most overtime we got so we loved it. I was tired as heck and my life consisted of work, sleep, grab some fast food and back to work. And they did bring in temp help so that's how much work there was at Xmas. Yes the post office!
Sure, the USPS always hires temps for the holiday season. My general feeling is if they are paying you don't complain. Then, I've known some railroaders who worked 90hr a week at all hours and had no personal life.
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