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Old 10-28-2008, 05:02 PM
Status: "Musing and Amusing" (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: Georgia
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I may do a blog about this one day.

I started out with HIGH HOPES for this field...but they came down and plummetted like my self esteem....Here is the deal. While you are in "beauty school" you can try to get a part-timer shampooing hair or working the desk, because you are NOT going to be a pro the minute you pass your State Board liscensing test. But you will be disappointed ROYALLY the minute you see how FEW people are willing to train or to take the time or put the energy into it. If you go right into a Chain tyoe if shop to work (ie Fantastic Sams, Great Clips, etc. ) they expect you to be PERFECT and hit the floor running. They will not train. But these are the only places I have seen that are actually hiring.

What happended to me...I got FIRED from 2 chain salons because I wasn;t quick or competent enough or whatever, and everywhere else I have gone I have gotten sent out the door. It would take too long to bore you with my nunerous (I mean numerous, no hope, absolutely awful) experiences I have had trying to get a d*mn job in this field. I mean working the desk...being an apprentice....you get the idea.

Are there any stylists on this board? Did you succeed? Are you still successful? What did you do to break in?

Right now I just want to vent...

I HATE SALON OWNERS..ALL OF THEM! I WISH ONE OF THEM WOULD GET RUN OVER BY A BUS...(ok I need to stop, I know!!)

I'M JUST SO MAD THAT NOT ONE OF THEM IN THE WORLD IS WILLING TO TRAIN ME. I HATE HATE HATE SALON B*TCHES!!!!!!!

(OK IM DONE! SORRY!!!JUST NEEDED TO GET THAT OUT!!!)

I'm glad I decided to quit though. God was trying to tell me to quit I think.
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:20 PM
 
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Look for a place that will train

What about supercuts, are they in your area?

Dont most of these chains have schools themselves
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:56 PM
 
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What you wanna do is stop working for comestics companies and start making money from behind the scenes, kinda like stocks. The cosmetics industry makes many many millions a year, even had me looking into it to make some dough. But the trick is though - to make dough you need the dough. Not many have the thousands and thousands lying in a bank account.
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:59 PM
 
Location: southern california
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firing people and employment at will is the new type of job environment. we got rid of unions people did not want them. its not about you. one door is closing time to try another door.
my favorite is VE at a jr college or US army. my favorite VE is CNA, LVN or RN.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:30 PM
 
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This thread is interesting because as a person with 2 degrees, one of them a masters, I am unemployed and often I have been underemployed.

I said to my husband I bet if I had a train (like haircutting) I would never be out of work. I appreciate you giving us your side of it.

Can you work for yourself? Open a small shop? Maybe do hair and makeup as an independent person (going to homes for weddings--offering something for bride who will not come to a shop).

Market yourself for yourself....that's where the $ is.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:45 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I may do a blog about this one day.

I started out with HIGH HOPES for this field...but they came down and plummetted like my self esteem....Here is the deal. While you are in "beauty school" you can try to get a part-timer shampooing hair or working the desk, because you are NOT going to be a pro the minute you pass your State Board liscensing test. But you will be disappointed ROYALLY the minute you see how FEW people are willing to train or to take the time or put the energy into it. If you go right into a Chain tyoe if shop to work (ie Fantastic Sams, Great Clips, etc. ) they expect you to be PERFECT and hit the floor running. They will not train. But these are the only places I have seen that are actually hiring.

What happended to me...I got FIRED from 2 chain salons because I wasn;t quick or competent enough or whatever, and everywhere else I have gone I have gotten sent out the door. It would take too long to bore you with my nunerous (I mean numerous, no hope, absolutely awful) experiences I have had trying to get a d*mn job in this field. I mean working the desk...being an apprentice....you get the idea.

Are there any stylists on this board? Did you succeed? Are you still successful? What did you do to break in?

Right now I just want to vent...

I HATE SALON OWNERS..ALL OF THEM! I WISH ONE OF THEM WOULD GET RUN OVER BY A BUS...(ok I need to stop, I know!!)

I'M JUST SO MAD THAT NOT ONE OF THEM IN THE WORLD IS WILLING TO TRAIN ME. I HATE HATE HATE SALON B*TCHES!!!!!!!

(OK IM DONE! SORRY!!!JUST NEEDED TO GET THAT OUT!!!)

I'm glad I decided to quit though. God was trying to tell me to quit I think.
Well, my advice is to find a small, independently owned salon in a small town and explain to the owner about your situation. My experience was that salons are so desperate to find hairdressers that they will work with you if you are willing to start at the bottom. It sounds to me like the school you went to fell down on the job because when I left beauty school I felt confident and competent enough to do the basics. You should have had enough floor time to give you that confidence. If you did not, I would go back to the school you graduated from and DEMAND that you get some more floor time at no extra charge (you're making them money, after all), until such time as you feel comfortable doing what you do.

Finally, I know there are TONS AND TONS of additional education opportunities in the industry in the form of seminars, etc. that are available to help you increase your knowledge and ability. I went to many, many of these to learn "cutting edge" technology and styles. You need to take it upon yourself to head on over to Atlanta or even go to another state to take advantage of additional training that is offered.

My thoughts are that if you pursue this like it is the most important thing in your life you cannot fail. You have to be serious, and professional and think of it as a life-time career.

Good luck. (And no, I am not a hairdresser now, LOL because I just don't LIKE it - not because I couldn't do it!)

20yrsinBranson
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Sanford, FL
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Train yourself. Put ads up for cheap or free haircuts in your area.
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:33 PM
 
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I would set up shop on your own! My sister did this for years and has since switched to dog grooming of all things!

Check the small business website that the government has - maybe you can get ideas from them on how to start... go for it.
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:59 PM
Status: "Musing and Amusing" (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: Georgia
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Dog grooming...a thought....now you'd have to apprentice in that i know....

I almost feel llike i'd have to SUCK UP, bribe, do things of that nature to get apprenticed...
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:09 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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OK, I did the beauty school thing...10+ years ago...

I started at Fantastic Sams, and then went on to be an Assistant in Coronado, in San Diego...

I made good Money, had fun...worked up to upscale shop as stylist, and made more money...

Then found a Union Job and forgot about the hair gig...but...it helped me get a leg up on my current career.

Stay Positive, and keep that license current, I still pay wholesale for designer hair/skin care...my license is current!
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