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Old 07-16-2009, 10:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I worked for the same company 35 years finally earning 5 weeks off and sick time up to 6 months at full pay. Any illness lasting more than 3 days required a doctor's confirmation of inability to work. I worked 10 years before I qualified for 3 weeks off. In my parents generation 2 weeks off was the norm and never changed irregardless of time employed. I don't think my father ever had any paid sick time.
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Old 07-16-2009, 10:45 AM
 
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my last company offered 2 weeks to start, 3 weeks after 2 years employment and 4 weeks after 5 weeks

they had a pretty healthy holiday schedule and sick time did not count against your vacation time ...... there would also be 1-2 discretional days for everyone

you could carry up to 5 days into the next year with mgr approval but they had to be used in the 1st quarter

they also just started 2 weeks paid paternal bonding time, which is nice

however, when you were at work it was pretty time intensive - 10 hours was a pretty average day and they often went longer

my current company offered 20 days PTO for the year - I had the option to use my salary to buy more, in september I can sell them back if I want ....... also have the option to carry over 5 days (but you can't carry over purchased days)

this is for any time you miss work, be it sick or vacation

since I don't really use sick days it works out - although the holiday schedule is pretty thin

at least we usually get out on time

i now it was a culture shock when I was living in england and dealing with EU countries - although not there long, the approach to work was a lot more balanced ..... sometimes to the point of insanity

I was on the phone with an office in france getting some information from them - the minute they hit office closing time the call ended ..... only had like 10 minutes left, but had to complete it the next day .......... that really wouldn't fly most places here
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Old 07-16-2009, 10:56 AM
 
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I think the EU laws/mandates should stay there. Sure, it'd be nice to have 4+ weeks of vacation - but the Government has no business telling employers what to do, IMO.

I've never worked for a company that offered more than 3 weeks after some tenure.

Um, yes they do! Otherwise employers take advantage of their employees and worker's personal lives (families, marriages etc.) deteriorate and affect society as a whole due to lack of quality of life.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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So I'm half American half Danish, I hold 2 passports, but I'm planning on moving back to the States for job reason soon. When I was 15 I moved to Denmark and have remained there into my early 20's. The area I want to work in (advertisement/marketing/PR) is limited in Denmark and I have some job opportunities set up back in the US.
As everybody who answered said, vacation time in the US varies greatly. Since you have some opportunities set up, you need to find out what their individual policies are.

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But one thing terrible I've learned about America is that the majority of Americans get just a paltry 2 weeks off!!! In Denmark, by law, it is required that all citizens receive 5-6 weeks paid vacation (4 weeks off by the law in the EU). The law is so that workers are insured quality of time with their family and that companies are not exploiting the hell out of them, as well as making sure the whole rat race mentality doesn't allow that bc one person takes vacation and another doesn't, they should loose their job.
The US has no laws regarding paid time off. In the US, anything that smacks of "socialism" is not looked upon favorably by many, even IF it would actually help most of the population.

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People have been telling me that in the US it's looked down upon to take vacation and you're considered "lazy" by doing so. I still can't grasp the idea of just 2 weeks...it seems so little, what are you supposed to do with that?
The US also has the remnants of the "Puritan Work Ethic" instilled in us from the first European settlers. Some areas of the US are more "relaxed" than others. I work in the epicenter of the work culture, NYC.

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The thing is, travel has ALWAYS been my passion. I love visiting new cultures and exploring the world. By just 2 weeks I can't do any of that...and it's depressing to me that the whole of EU gets so much time off and to enjoy life but in America everyone is a slave to the corporation.
If this is how you feel, you may be better off staying in the EU and visiting America on one of your long vacations.

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So my question is, how true is this point? Are there major companies that are more generous? Or is 2 weeks the rule? Is there no other alternative? What about UNpaid time off, can an employee ask for such thing?
Although some places allow this for a specific situation after you've been employed awhile (illness, care of a family member, back to school, etc.), a lot of places would not hire you if you asked about this because you wanted more vacation time. They would not look upon you favorably at all as a job candidate.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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The difference really is amazing and, many many years ago when I started out my working life in England, a couple of weeks was pretty much the norm starting off in a new job. When I emigrated to the US it was hard to adapt to having to work for a whole year before getting any paid vacation and then only a week or two.

I do think the European system is much saner and healthier!
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:32 AM
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Location: Queens, NY
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some jobs in america only offer 5 vacation days and 3 sick days.

*edit*
meant to say 5 VACATION days and 3 sick days.

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Old 07-16-2009, 11:35 AM
 
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That's just sick and fascist. What if you have mono or something really bad for 2 or 3 weeks? You're expected to go to work with a fever, cough and chills and risk making the whole office sick!?
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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That's just sick and fascist. What if you have mono or something really bad for 2 or 3 weeks? You're expected to go to work with a fever, cough and chills and risk making the whole office sick!?
At some companies, yes. At others you could be forced to take unpaid leave and not come back without a doctors note. And in some states they could simply fire you.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:55 AM
 
Location: 602/520
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If short vacation time irks you so much, become a teacher or a professor. Professors have extremely flexible schedules, plus 8-12 week summer breaks. They also have 3-5 week breaks for Christmas. Teachers get more than a couple weeks off at most schools, as well.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: 602/520
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That's just sick and fascist. What if you have mono or something really bad for 2 or 3 weeks? You're expected to go to work with a fever, cough and chills and risk making the whole office sick!?
At many government jobs, if you are out long periods of time, a request will be sent around your office for others to give up their sick days on your behalf. That way, you won't be penalized if you contract some terminal illness or something.

However, if you work 9.5 hour days, you are eligible for RDO's (regular days off) every other week. Annual RDO's add up to about 3 extra weeks off per year in addition to vacation time, normally at 2-3 weeks.
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