Is a 'initial probationary period' common and what does it really mean? (letters, health insurance)
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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy
Well Tomorrow is my 60th day evaluation with one more month to go. Haven't missed any days like the other new people have or been late.
But it means that you are showing you belong there and expected to make some errors during that time.
Nothing will get you fired faster during probation than calling in sick or showing up late. Of all the things they watch, they watch that the closest. If you have to miss work, you'd better have a damn good reason and well document it. Even then you might get fired.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by annerk
Oh please. Unions aren't the end all be all. I know plenty of guys in unions who haven't had work in six or more months.
Those of us who do our jobs well and contribute to the bottom line of our employer are financially rewarded based on our contributions, not those of the lowest common denominator.
I lost my last job with two months notice because the company was bought out and I didn't want to relocate. I was given a very lucrative severence package--more than anyone in a union ever would have gotten.
I am not saying anything about unions (although I favour them) here. I am simply pointing out that, in a union shop, once an employee completes probation, he or she comes under the union contract and can only be terminated for cause and can appeal termination whereas the non union employee is "at will" meanning he can be fired anytime for any reason regardless of how long he has worked there. It is really silly for non union companies to have probationary periods because all their employees are "at will" and can be fired at anytime.
Nothing will get you fired faster during probation than calling in sick or showing up late. Of all the things they watch, they watch that the closest. If you have to miss work, you'd better have a damn good reason and well document it. Even then you might get fired.
And this one stupid girl who doesn't have a clue about anything is waiting for her 91st day so she can start requesting time off-lol
She is truly dumb as a box of rocks. You want to do more than just get pass the 90 day probationary period before you start requesting time off.
Nothing will get you fired faster during probation than calling in sick or showing up late. Of all the things they watch, they watch that the closest. If you have to miss work, you'd better have a damn good reason and well document it. Even then you might get fired.
it depends on the state you are in. In some states they can't take disciplinary action against you if you have a doctors note for the missed time.
It is really silly for non union companies to have probationary periods because all their employees are "at will" and can be fired at anytime.
That is an overly simplistic statement. Yes, technically in at "at will" environment, you can be dismissed at any time. Realistically, it does not happen that way.
If you fire somebody for reasons other than business reasons (layoffs due to economic need, poor performance, reorganization, relocation of business), you open yourself up to a wrongful dismissal lawsuit. If the person is in any sort of protected class, the company could face damages, and at the very least will need to spend dollars defending itself legally.
Unions certainly add a level of protection, and have contractual safeguards. But at will does not mean any time for any reason either.
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