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Old 09-06-2009, 09:12 PM
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Default Why do people think unpaid work doesn't count?

I've never had a paid job. Some people I know with paid jobs look down upon me for this. However, I have done a lot of volunteer work. Why do people think volunteer work isn't real work?

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Old 09-07-2009, 12:26 AM
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Nothing wrong with volunteer work, but at some point you'll have bills to pay and will have to break free of whatever teat you're attached to right now.
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People just want proof that you can hold your own. If its another employer that wont hire you because you haven't had a previous job, then maybe you can offer a very descriptive resume describing exactly what all you did at those volunteer jobs. If you don't make it obvious that you can be responsible, they will just look through you.
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I've never had a paid job. Some people I know with paid jobs look down upon me for this. However, I have done a lot of volunteer work. Why do people think volunteer work isn't real work?

Could it be, they don't think that, and that you think they think that?

Should a person, once out of college, continue to volunteer?
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Default unpaid work

There is an international movement to get governments to notice the exact type of contribution you m ention- volunteer work. Care of children, the sick, handicapped, elderly and dying is also in the category of work unrecognized by traditional economics and ignoring it skews the accuracy of government stats. The movement has several parts. One is to count this work as was recommended in 1997 at the UN during the Platform for Action legislation all member nations signed. The second is to include this labor for its value, in the GDP. The next move is to figure out a way to empower those who do this work. Some are suggesting a living wage or citizen's income so that everybody got a basic subsistence allowance, recognizing the unpaid worker and letting the paid worker earn more than that and on top of that. Another move however is not the universal basic income, which admittedly would go to the lazy who don't help anyone as well as the hardworking unpaid, but a credit based system. A person could get some sort of income based on the amount of unpaid work they do. The unpaid work itself would be deemed a credit into the national economy and volunteer work, care of kids, care of the elderly etc. would qualify a person for this income.

The reason the discussion is happening is this- when traditional economics forces all people out of the home to do paid work, because that's the only work it values, the other roles they play get ignored. There is a lack of volunteers to drive cancer patients to appointments, read to the blind, coach little league or clean up rivers. The government is also noticing that the roles back home were in fact not lazy. Someone still has to take care of kids or the sick or dying. If government has to hire someone to do this, as a way to enable someone to get a paid job, the bill is over the moon expensive. GOvernments are realizing is it cheaper to value the work at home and to fund' the child' or the 'elderly 'person who needs care and to let that person assign a caregiver.

All over the world governments are noticing that ignoring the unpaid sector has been a mistake. We are working on fixing that. It actually ties in very well with the 3rd wave of women's rightsl These websites do not have www.
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I realize I will have bills to pay someday and I will need a paid job. That is why I am going to college.

I tried to get a job about 18 months ago. I don't know what the problem was...my lack of paid experience or the limited hours I could work (I was in high school plus I played a sport). Maybe both of those were the problem. It's a vicious cycle: can't get a job without experience, can't get experience without a job. I thought it was ironic that they didn't hire me because it was clear from the interview that I was smarter than the 28 year old interviewing me. I was only 16 at the time. By the time I am 28, I will be more successful than her (an assistant manager at Taco Bell). Sometimes I think jobs like Taco Bell prefer less intelligent people because they realize the smart people will leave for a better job after they go to college.

But it's not just employers. People in general seem to think it's a bad thing to work without getting paid.

Once you're out of college, your main priority should be a paid job. But if a college graduate wants to do volunteer work on weekends, there's nothing wrong with that.
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Volunteering is great for experience. You have to realize, though, a lot of people think it's stupid. They feel you should NOT give back yet rather, take, from society.

I know people who react the same when I mention volunteering. However, in this bad economy, many people NEED to do something while looking for work. I currently volunteer w/my husband by running a support group. I am also thinking of volunteering at a local museum. Do I need $$$. Heck, sure. But until I get a job, I need something else to do and I like getting out and meeting people.

You can make a lot of connections volunteering.
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I'm going to go with "Because you're not evaluated as a volunteer."
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I thought it was ironic that they didn't hire me because it was clear from the interview that I was smarter than the 28 year old interviewing me. I was only 16 at the time. By the time I am 28, I will be more successful than her (an assistant manager at Taco Bell). Sometimes I think jobs like Taco Bell prefer less intelligent people because they realize the smart people will leave for a better job after they go to college.
Couldn't have been your attitude.
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I would look to your college as a resource to finding a job. You could possibly find a job working at your school. If there's a career center or something similar available, you should take advantage of that.
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