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Old 09-16-2009, 10:02 AM
 
Location: St. Croix
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I suppose that when the government can't force private enterprise to create jobs, the government herself can hire people.
"herself" - please, no gender bashing here! The government is not a ship... well, on second thought, maybe a sinking ship that is taking a damn long time to sink... over 200 years.

No point to this post, just an exception to the "herself".

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Old 09-16-2009, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas via NYC via Austin via Chicago
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There is another way to get into Fed employment and that's as contractor through many companies who provide contractors for federal government agencies (Booz Allen, Northrop Grumman, for example).
You don't have to be a vet but often you do need to have active clearance of various levels (depending on the job).
That's how I got on, I worked for a Federal Contractor and my skills matched exactly with the position they posted. I'm still waiting to start as it has been a 4 month process. I agree that Vets should have first crack at all federal jobs, they put their lives on the line to protect our freedom and most are qualified to do the work anyways.
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Old 09-16-2009, 04:56 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Federal jobs are tough to get. You have to meet the requirements exactly. Lots of people apply who don't (and seemingly silly little things can automatically bar you from qualifying, and, often the better jobs are filled from within by lower ranking federal employees, and if not, often by a veteran). About the only way except for a handful of people with very important special skills in short supply to really get in is at a low level job and move up slowly, and if you're in debt from education or something, that can be tough to manage. A friend of mine works for the forest service, took him years of working seasonally before he landed a permanent job and worked his way up to a good pay grade. On the bright side, he loves his work and makes very good money for this area, but the early years were tough and would (and did he's told me in the past) drive many away. He had a pile of debt from getting his degrees (master's in forestry, bachelor in forestry, and an associates in forest technology, all of those and he still took years to get in a real good position).
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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"herself" - please, no gender bashing here! The government is not a ship... well, on second thought, maybe a sinking ship that is taking a damn long time to sink... over 200 years.

No point to this post, just an exception to the "herself".

Done.
Not gender bashing. I don't know if I would even be capable of that considering I am a woman.

I always think of Lady Liberty, Lady Justice-- and those tend to be symbols for our government and country.
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Old 09-18-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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A lot of these jobs will be filled by government employed contractors. They are phasing out the contractor positions and turning them into GS positions. They will try to rehire the current contractors into the government sector where they can. At least that's what's happening where I'm at right now.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:26 PM
 
Location: DC-Baltimore area
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I was lucky, I guess -- got hired on my first application to the government, and quite quickly. Didn't know anyone there. Did do an excellent resume and cover letter. W as working down the street from the agency -- that may have played a part (vs. trying to get in from out of town). Had two companies also trying to hire me, and told them that (had to move it along).
Almost all the hiring I see by managers at my agency is people they know (even though the jobs get listed in public databases)-- often, from a past job they held or from contract work. So, yes, I would encourage people who are interested in federal work to look at contracting opportunities in their area. However, govt work is not for everyone. As you would expect, it is very bureaucratic and often slow moving.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Sometimes Maryland, sometimes NoVA. Depends on the day of the week
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I'm a federal worker, but have never served. My current office has two vets out of 20 department members. My previous office had two vets out of 40. You certainly do not need to have veterans preference, especially if you are a scientist, engineer, etc.

Yes, it does take forever. My first fed job, I applied in March and started in Sept. When I moved between agencies, I applied in June and started in January. My next move, applied in June and starting in October. Oh, and other than this 3rd moved, I didn't know anyone when I applied.
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