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Old 12-17-2009, 11:12 AM
 
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Well when you run your ads on Craigslist, what do you expect?

Besides your in central Florida and you make coments about people reading and not understanding what your asking for...LOL....please.

Two years in FL and dealing with the level of people who work in medical facilities and offices I am not suprised you get people who don't get "two years experience"....lot of dummies down here. Both natives as well as transplants.

But when you run an add on Craigslist as oppossed to paying for job listings or using search firms...well that is what you are going to attract.

Especially in the land of dumb and dumber.
Your opinion. I've also advertised on Monster and CareerBuilder with the same results. We've found many fully qualified people in this area. We just have to weed through the idiots with poor grammar and reading comprehension to find them.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:15 AM
 
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Yup just playing games with the lives of many unemployed people in this country. I remember some NUT on this board saying that there was nothing wrong with going to a FUTURE INTEREST job interview.
There's nothing going to a future interest interview as long as the employer is upfront about the position not being available at that moment.

The company I work for now might be looking to hire 15-20 people in the first quarter of 2010. We've been talking about beginning the recruiting process now with future interest interviews so we can have a pool of pre-qualified candidates to pull from, as opposed to having to hire that many people in the space of two weeks in a crunch. Anyone who isn't interested in coming in to talk to us knowing that we won't be actually hiring for a few months--and it's dependent on a large contract we're negotiating--is obviously not interested in working for us, so we'll move on to the next guy.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:13 AM
 
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Employers that don't call back when they say they are going to, small companies that use standard rejection letters (you can tell they are just spit out on a computer, not personalized) and those that don't call at all, well....
are those companies, you'd really want to work at anyway?
need to, maybe, want to? I don't think so.
I had one rejection letter. The interviewers said that they were going to hire 15 people. The rejection letter said "we had many competitive applicants for the one position"....
that's an example of the BS I'm talking about.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:24 AM
 
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You mean after an interview? And they say "We'll call you". That usually means 'fat chance'.

But that is a good barometer on what companies you want to work for.

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Employers that don't call back when they say they are going to, small companies that use standard rejection letters (you can tell they are just spit out on a computer, not personalized) and those that don't call at all, well....
are those companies, you'd really want to work at anyway?
need to, maybe, want to? I don't think so.
I had one rejection letter. The interviewers said that they were going to hire 15 people. The rejection letter said "we had many competitive applicants for the one position"....
that's an example of the BS I'm talking about.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:59 PM
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There's nothing going to a future interest interview as long as the employer is upfront about the position not being available at that moment.

The company I work for now might be looking to hire 15-20 people in the first quarter of 2010. We've been talking about beginning the recruiting process now with future interest interviews so we can have a pool of pre-qualified candidates to pull from, as opposed to having to hire that many people in the space of two weeks in a crunch. Anyone who isn't interested in coming in to talk to us knowing that we won't be actually hiring for a few months--and it's dependent on a large contract we're negotiating--is obviously not interested in working for us, so we'll move on to the next guy.
Are you serious?
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:35 PM
 
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Anyone who isn't interested in coming in to talk to us knowing that we won't be actually hiring for a few months--and it's dependent on a large contract we're negotiating--is obviously not interested in working for us, so we'll move on to the next guy.
Yeah, anyone who really wants to work for you couldn't possibly also want a paycheck.

Qualified people don't just sit around waiting to see if you might offer them a job in a few months. They'll be looking for other jobs too and when someone offers them a job, they'll take it, and then you'll be stuck with your second or third or fourth choice applicants.
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Old 12-19-2009, 01:17 AM
 
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Yeah, anyone who really wants to work for you couldn't possibly also want a paycheck.

Qualified people don't just sit around waiting to see if you might offer them a job in a few months. They'll be looking for other jobs too and when someone offers them a job, they'll take it, and then you'll be stuck with your second or third or fourth choice applicants.
With unemployment hovering at 10% here, that's not likely. We might lose a couple of people to other jobs, but certainly not all of the top tier people. We also pay better than most, so we've got leverage there as well. The last time we did this we hired ten people, and several of them quit their current jobs to come work for us--better pay and benefits in an established and still growing company known for good working conditions, why not?
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Old 12-19-2009, 06:24 AM
 
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Are you serious?
Totally serious. Based on previous experience, if we put ads out for the three positions we'd be hiring for today, we'd get over 1000 resumes back--200 would be qualified, and we'd probably call in 30 for interviews. Plenty of people out of work around here would jump at the chance of interviewing now for a job that wouldn't start until early spring. We're talking skilled labor--those jobs don't open left and right. It's not like retail or food service where there's a constant turnover.

The last time we did a major hire, 80% of the people we brought in were on u/e and I'm going to estimates that the average guy had been collecting u/e for over five months. People on u/e have nothing to lose by coming in for an interview.
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:58 AM
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Totally serious. Based on previous experience, if we put ads out for the three positions we'd be hiring for today, we'd get over 1000 resumes back--200 would be qualified, and we'd probably call in 30 for interviews. Plenty of people out of work around here would jump at the chance of interviewing now for a job that wouldn't start until early spring. We're talking skilled labor--those jobs don't open left and right. It's not like retail or food service where there's a constant turnover.

The last time we did a major hire, 80% of the people we brought in were on u/e and I'm going to estimates that the average guy had been collecting u/e for over five months. People on u/e have nothing to lose by coming in for an interview.


It would make more sense not to say it's a FUTURE INTEREST INTERVIEW so the applicant wouldn't know that they are wasting their time.
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:35 AM
 
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It would make more sense not to say it's a FUTURE INTEREST INTERVIEW so the applicant wouldn't know that they are wasting their time.
How are they wasting their time? Once this contract is in place, we'll be calling these people to come to work. They will make $50K a year or more, plus great benefits. That's something you can only dream of.
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