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what we are looking for in our company...
and the place is an all white place?
I've heard this enough times in my life where it makes me wonder. Too often, especially in smaller companies, employers and those in charge of hiring, want people that they can not only work with, but relate to and sadly (even though it may not be most of the time) it's easier to relate to someone who looks and acts like you.
Maybe whites have seen this when they've applied for jobs in all black or latino places, however, for everytime this happens, there's IMO 5 to 10 times more that it's the other way around.
I have lost jobs and not gotten jobs in the past because they stated it was not a good "fit". I am not into gossip and "company culture" (i.e. baby showers). I am into working. I have been let go twice and not hired once because I did not wish to participate in such things as brining a covered dish to lunch or spending the first three hours of the work day drinking coffee and eating donuts and discussing what I was going to eat for lunch.
The point I am trying to make, I guess, is that sometimes being a "fit" has nothing to do with ethnicity.
per OP
the card is much harder to play coming in the door. HR is looking for people that are not itching to play the card but are black. this is a great hire. when you got black staff that are good, smart, and team players and are not going to sue you, you got a good hire.
for HR, if you hire the time bomb lusting for EEOC revenge you have just messed with your job. stop looking to skin tone and look to attitude. employment is 85% attitude--- something TV does not teach.
It's obvious you don't have a clue how dangerous it is to hire a black person.
I will be honest here. If it were up to me I would avoid it at all costs. I don't care how good you are if you're black you just aren't worth the risks. As an employer (I am not now but have been) it's like asking to be shoved into a walking on eggshells environment. One wrong word, one perceived slight and here come the lawyers!
It's really disgusting.
Are you kidding me? I hope you get smacked with an EEOC lawsuit that costs you every dime you have with that type of attitude.
For the record, the company I work for actively recruits minorities, and they are some of our best workers.
"Actively recruits" such as discrimination against white males?
We have a steady stream of white males walking through the door to apply. We reach out to minority communities because often we find that minorities don't know we exist unless we specifically target them to apply. Bottom line we want to hire the best person for the job, and it's not always the white male.
I have lost jobs and not gotten jobs in the past because they stated it was not a good "fit". I am not into gossip and "company culture" (i.e. baby showers). I am into working. I have been let go twice and not hired once because I did not wish to participate in such things as brining a covered dish to lunch or spending the first three hours of the work day drinking coffee and eating donuts and discussing what I was going to eat for lunch.
The point I am trying to make, I guess, is that sometimes being a "fit" has nothing to do with ethnicity.
20yrsinBranson
This post reminds me of my job right now. In the last 2 weeks, we've had 3 potluck luncheons and 2 birthdays where everyone is expected to sign up to bring in a food item. I try to play the good employee and bring stuff in, but on Friday, they tell me about yet ANOTHER birthday for this week and asked what I was bringing in. I finally had enough and said I was short of cash due to the holidays and will not be participating. I'm not really broke, but I'm tired of spending money and time buying all this crap every day! I'm a single guy that lives alone so I've been spending more money buying food for coworkers than I do for myself. Enough already! lol
I work with 95% women, so I don't "fit in" at my job either and it has nothing to do with race...
I've known people who will not hire minorities. They said straight out, "I am not hiring a (insert Black or Hispanic here). These were people making decisions for MAJOR organizations.
I have also known people who will not hire smokers, various ethnic groups, or gays.
Lawsuit? Well, prove it...
Isn't nepotism 'hiring who you want' and leaving out those you don't?
I guess if you own a business you can do what you want with it. Like I said, you have to prove it...good luck.
I've known people who will not hire minorities. They said straight out, "I am not hiring a (insert Black or Hispanic here). These were people making decisions for MAJOR organizations.
I have also known people who will not hire smokers, various ethnic groups, or gays.
Lawsuit? Well, prove it...
Isn't nepotism 'hiring who you want' and leaving out those you don't?
I guess if you own a business you can do what you want with it. Like I said, you have to prove it...good luck.
Actually there are legal precedents that allow employers to refuse to hire smokers. Personally I wouldn't hire one--they STINK. I wouldn't hire someone with BO, why should I hire someone who has an equally offensive odor from smoke or the types of food they eat? None of that is a protected class.
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How is you discriminating (???) against smokers or a drug user any different than someone who is black or gay? It's not!
What? It's very different. Blacks and Hispanics have nothing to do with driving up insurance rates and costs that a company pays for one and two one can control if they smoke or not, (if they really try), you can't control if you are black or even gay.
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