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Unread 01-19-2010, 04:52 AM
 
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I have to respectfully disagree, my friend

With constant complex work (Think 60+ hour weeks of software development for new products), If I never take a day off, the quality of my work will start to go downhill and the burn-out feeling will come on. By taking a few personal days a month, I feel re-charged and perform great work.

So I think that what you're saying could definitely be true for certain industries, but not as a blanket statement.
I also agree with NSX. Life is too short. If you can't take a day off now and then without being fired (I've done it at every job and gotten along fine) then what is it all worth?

One day off to smell the roses isn't going to devastate your 'career,' is it? In the end of your life will you say, seriously, "I wish I worked harder that Friday in May, 2001 for "Conclommo Corp?" I doubt you or the boss will remember it.

Like I said, it shouldn't be a habit and you should be a good worker. Some days we simply cannot face work. Well, the normal people among us will admit that. Those of you who don't, well you are damn lucky you LOVE your jobs or you are 'too sucky' to take an occasional day off without planning it 21 days in advance...
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Unread 01-19-2010, 06:07 AM
 
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I also agree with NSX. Life is too short. If you can't take a day off now and then without being fired (I've done it at every job and gotten along fine) then what is it all worth?

One day off to smell the roses isn't going to devastate your 'career,' is it? In the end of your life will you say, seriously, "I wish I worked harder that Friday in May, 2001 for "Conclommo Corp?" I doubt you or the boss will remember it.

Like I said, it shouldn't be a habit and you should be a good worker. Some days we simply cannot face work. Well, the normal people among us will admit that. Those of you who don't, well you are damn lucky you LOVE your jobs or you are 'too sucky' to take an occasional day off without planning it 21 days in advance...
No one is saying you shouldn't take a day off--- you should always have time off to recharge the batteries, etc.

We are talking about taking sick time, i.e. calling in unexpectedly and unplanned, because you want a day off.

Take a day off work-- great! But plan it ahead of time if you need to be recharged. Don't call in the morning of and say my tummy hurts when you are not sick.

To me-- that expectation is not mean ole manager and HR department out to get me and are treating me like a child. Rather taking a day off with no notice (under normal circumstances obviously if you are ill, had a car accident, have someone in your immediate family who is critically ill, a death, etc) to me exhibits childish behavior.
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Unread 01-19-2010, 06:13 AM
 
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I also agree with NSX. Life is too short. If you can't take a day off now and then without being fired (I've done it at every job and gotten along fine) then what is it all worth?

One day off to smell the roses isn't going to devastate your 'career,' is it? In the end of your life will you say, seriously, "I wish I worked harder that Friday in May, 2001 for "Conclommo Corp?" I doubt you or the boss will remember it.

Like I said, it shouldn't be a habit and you should be a good worker. Some days we simply cannot face work. Well, the normal people among us will admit that. Those of you who don't, well you are damn lucky you LOVE your jobs or you are 'too sucky' to take an occasional day off without planning it 21 days in advance...
I have vacation and personal days to take time off. Lying to your company and calling in sick is dishonest. If I lie to my boss and call in sick when I am not, how can I expect my boss to treat me honestly? Treat someone the way you want to be treated. You lie to your company about being sick, fine. Just don't complain when your company treats you poorly right back.

And from the majority of your posts, it seems you want nothing more out of life than to live it up. I find your 'take what I can get all the time' attitude very depressing. Find a job that is meaningful and actually gives back to society. You might find you see it as more than a necessary evil.
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Unread 01-19-2010, 06:44 AM
 
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And from the majority of your posts, it seems you want nothing more out of life than to live it up. I find your 'take what I can get all the time' attitude very depressing. Find a job that is meaningful and actually gives back to society. You might find you see it as more than a necessary evil.
I find this post laughable. I would love to see you unemployed for almost 2 years. Wait, it must be 'because' I took a day off and used the company in 1991.

I'm not a selfish person though you want to make me out to be. I've been successful at the majority of my jobs. I also worked as a teacher in preschools making very little money. I've volunteered and 'given back' to society.

Believe me, hnsq, I would LOVE to find a fulfilling and meaningful career. But the majority of my last years have been as a full time parent and that comes before the corporate world.

So, now being a 'mom' is a taker? Funny, I though it was RIGHT to put your family need first.

I just don't understand why ANYONE cannot submit an opposing position around here without being 'analyzed' by people in their past posts.

I just think it's not a horror or shock for someone to occasionally call in at the last minute. Is it better that person 'goes postal' and shoots up his co-workers?

I don't expect you to agree, but do understand not EVERYONE is lucky enough to LOVE their jobs or have the ability to put work first. Most of us juggle many balls and sometimes we have to 'settle' for work.

Seriously, didn't you ever see Office Space, for example...? A movie most normal people can relate to...

Does EVERYONE on here LOVE work so much they cannot 'imagine' taking a day off without prior notice? Is that using and lying to the company? How ironic.

Thanks to the people who gave me rep for the last post! Not everyone is a corporate drone or 'super worker' I see..

PS If my life is 'living it up' I'd hate to see what really boring is....lol. Anyhow, thanks for your perspective, seriously.

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Unread 01-19-2010, 07:07 AM
 
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I find this post laughable. I would love to see you unemployed for almost 2 years. Wait, it must be 'because' I took a day off and used the company in 1991.

I'm not a selfish person though you want to make me out to be. I've been successful at the majority of my jobs. I also worked as a teacher in preschools making very little money. I've volunteered and 'given back' to society.

Believe me, hnsq, I would LOVE to find a fulfilling and meaningful career. But the majority of my last years have been as a full time parent and that comes before the corporate world.

So, now being a 'mom' is a taker? Funny, I though it was RIGHT to put your family need first.

I just don't understand why ANYONE cannot submit an opposing position around here without being 'analyzed' by people in their past posts.

I just think it's not a horror or shock for someone to occasionally call in at the last minute. Is it better that person 'goes postal' and shoots up his co-workers?

I don't expect you to agree, but do understand not EVERYONE is lucky enough to LOVE their jobs or have the ability to put work first. Most of us juggle many balls and sometimes we have to 'settle' for work.

Seriously, didn't you ever see Office Space, for example...? A movie most normal people can relate to...

Does EVERYONE on here LOVE work so much they cannot 'imagine' taking a day off without prior notice? Is that using and lying to the company? How ironic.

Thanks to the people who gave me rep for the last post! Not everyone is a corporate drone or 'super worker' I see..

PS If my life is 'living it up' I'd hate to see what really boring is....lol. Anyhow, thanks for your perspective, seriously.

I never said that being a parent isn't a noble job. It is a more respectable job than anything I have done so far in my life.

Don't go off on my about something I did not say.

Sick days are for being sick. If you need a day off to relax, don't call in sick - take a vacation or personal day. Stress is not an illness. Do you disagree with that? I find it amusing you tell me off for advice I give about work/careers when you were unemployed for two years and the longest I have been without a job is 2 weeks. Whatever I am doing (even if you disagree with it), it is working.

Please try to stay rational, this is a discussion, not a shouting match. I know we disagree (we have on many threads), but I would love to discuss it calmly with you.
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Unread 01-19-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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Unless you are working 80+ hour weeks, no one really needs a 'mental health day'.

I have never taken a sick day and not still put in 8 hours of work. I can't do everything from home, but I can easily find 8 hours of work to do when I am home. Sick days are not an excuse to have a free day off...

The work you do is sedentary. Not everyone is a desk jockey, some people have tough, physical jobs and need time off and sometimes you can't predict when; you wake up and find it's 0 degrees out, your back hurts and you just don't feel like going up on the iron. So you stay home. And lemme tell ya something; the older you get the harder it gets.

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Unread 01-19-2010, 07:59 AM
 
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The work you do is sedantary and makes no physical demands. Not everyone is a desk jockey, some people have tough jobs and need time off and sometimes you can't predict when; you wake up and find it's 0 degrees out, your back hurts and you just don't feel like going up on the iron. So you stay home.
And how is that not essentially lying to your boss?

If your boss lied to you you would be pissed off ranting here about it, but it is justified for you to lie to him/her?

Do you see my problem with that?

I also had this same attitude before I worked behind a desk.
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Unread 01-19-2010, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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And how is that not essentially lying to your boss?


First you gotta explain how my not going to work is lying to someone. I don't think we're on the same page here.

Are you at work now?
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Unread 01-19-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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I am not looking to argue or get irrational. I try to keep an open mind and yes, I do like to learn something.

But you claimed from my other posts I like to live it up. I have to tell you I have lived the most 'austere' life you can probably image.

I wonder what you do for a job. Are you a boss? Are you a manager? Obviously you are not a low level peon or someone who works physically every day or does rote work.


The vast majority of people, as I have said, do not do what they want to do, but to pay the bills.

I stand by my reply that it's not heinous or a tragedy if you occasionally wake up and want to stay home from work. Is this statement going to keep me from ever working again?
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Unread 01-19-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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Because I would think calling out sick on a monday or friday looks a lot worse than calling out on a wednesday. Also calling out on payday is another bad day to call out.
When you say it looks a lot worse do you mean that it looks more like you called in even though you weren't sick?

If so it doesn't really matter how it looks, since you've pretty much told everyone here that you called in sick even though you weren't sick.

This is an abuse of your paid sick leave.

I agree with you that I would rarely call someone who was home sick unless I had something that I really couldn't deal with without them. After all, I wouldn't want to bother them when they're sick.

On the other hand, you weren't sick! You were just slacking off.

I hope you at least managed a fake sniffle or cough while you were talking to him.
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