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If you have a problem with the wars, (I would like to see us out of there too) you need to talk to Obama and Pelosi; that is their department now.
I do not have a problem with unemployment insurance, you pay into it and it is there for you when you when you need it. That being said when people have been on it for 2 years it is no longer unemployment, it is welfare. I disagree that the people who have been on unemployment 2 years have done all they can to support themselves. The job market just does not reflect that. I live in California with one of the highest unemployment rates in the country, and yet you still cannot find anyone willing work for less than $20hr. If you do find someone to work for less than that, they are completely worthless. Extended unemployment such as the proposed "tier 5" is only postponing the inevitable at a huge cost to the taxpayers. This country is running up debt at a rate that will cause default in the not too distant future if we continue spending at present levels. I have sympathy for the unemployed but I am not willing to stand by and let them drag the rest of the country down with them. Some people believe the government is and endless source of free money. It is not. All the money spent by government has to be repaid by someone at sometime. That someone is the taxpayers and the sometime will be sooner than you think. Endless give away social programs and budget deficits are the blueprint for turning a 1st world country into a 3rd world country in just a few decades.
Do you really think there are 7 million long term unemployed who don't want to work??? Give me a break. Open your eyes.
Denny also made good points about after WE get cut off, Foreclosures and on and on and you don't think this is going to also affect you? I love how the employed also think we love living on half of what we use to make and we really cant make all our bills anymore and its great staying home for 2 years because we have no money.
While I blame Obama for continuing the wars, I blame Bush for putting us there in the first place. And it doesn't help that you have people like McCain and his fellow Republicans who say that withdrawing would be tantamount to admitting defeat.
The democrats have control of government as was proven by the health care bill being shoved down our throats. If the wars are continuing the democrats are responsible.
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And your concerns about the debt are laughable. If you were really worried about the debt driving this country into the ground, you would be directing your outrage to far more ridiculous examples of government waste. I mentioned the war on terror. How about the subsidies we give to corn growers when we already have 6 times the amount of corn we need? How about the subsidies that go to the oil companies even though they're enjoying record profits and now trying to wiggle out of paying for an oil spill they created? How about all the money we give the military? Do we really need one more aircraft carrier, submarine or Harrier jet? Compared to those examples, what we spend on unemployment is pocket change.
I agree that all the examples you gave with the exception of military spending is wasted.
However the topic of this discussion is not those topics, it is continually extending unemployment welfare to the tune of $140 billion dollars (which you seem to think is pocket change) a year. That does not include the costs of another 40 million people collecting food stamps at another $70 billion.
There are winners and losers in free trade. The winners have been consumers who have access to more goods at cheaper prices and businesses who can hire cheaper workers in other countries. The losers have been the American workers.
It has more to do with public policy decisions than free trade. There is nothing preventing our elected representatives to government from solving poverty while ensuring full employment of resources in the market for labor.
The rest can be attributed to normal friction in markets reacquiring a new equilibrium.
This is true that long term, free trade is beneficial to all countries as a whole.
Unfortunately there are casualties. American workers are those casualties
Corporate welfare has paid corporate welfare bonuses. Why is it so difficult to simply pay unemployment compensation to labor market participants who are unemployed in any at-will employment state?
I some point the maney poaid in runs out in the funding like everythong else. Its not like its invested and the government poys interest and dividends.i am in favor of it but realise that it can't go o forever and normally would have runout long ago. I had hoped that some of the stimulus would ahve been spent here really as it done nohting elsewhere.
It depends on how market friendly the public policy scheme is. In principle, a person should be able to have recourse to unemployment compensation on the same at-will basis as employment, in any at-will employment state.
Do you really think there are 7 million long term unemployed who don't want to work??? Give me a break. Open your eyes.
Denny also made good points about after WE get cut off, Foreclosures and on and on and you don't think this is going to also affect you? I love how the employed also think we love living on half of what we use to make and we really cant make all our bills anymore and its great staying home for 2 years because we have no money.
What I think is that many of those 7 million are not doing what it takes. If you can not make it in this economy, just wait until you see what is coming down the road. People act as if a job is an entitlement. When they do have one, most do as little as possible to keep it. I am frustrated daily by slackers who are unwilling to put any effort into their jobs. People in service related industries act as if they are doing customers a favor by doing their jobs incompetently. On one of my trips to Asia I sat next to a lady who had immigrated to the US from China. She related to me how she and her husband had arrived in the US with nothing. They both got jobs at Jack in the Box, they worked so hard they were promoted to managers in 3 months. She said they could not believe their good fortune; they could actually afford to eat a chicken every day! She said in China they could only afford to eat meat a few times a year. While they were working full time at Jack in the Box, they were going to school to get their real estate licenses and to improve their English. Within a year they were both working in real estate and after 5 years of hard work and saving they were able to become brokers and own their own real estate office. She could not understand why people who lived in the US did not take full advantage of all the opportunity the country allowed. The success she enjoyed in the US was not even imaginable in China.
The opportunities are out there for the people who are willing to get off their fat butts and go after them. Life is a competition, the winners will win, and the slackers will whine about how unfair life has been to them and demand more unemployment and entitlements.
What I think is that many of those 7 million are not doing what it takes. If you can not make it in this economy, just wait until you see what is coming down the road. People act as if a job is an entitlement. When they do have one, most do as little as possible to keep it. I am frustrated daily by slackers who are unwilling to put any effort into their jobs. People in service related industries act as if they are doing customers a favor by doing their jobs incompetently. On one of my trips to Asia I sat next to a lady who had immigrated to the US from China. She related to me how she and her husband had arrived in the US with nothing. They both got jobs at Jack in the Box, they worked so hard they were promoted to managers in 3 months. She said they could not believe their good fortune; they could actually afford to eat a chicken every day! She said in China they could only afford to eat meat a few times a year. While they were working full time at Jack in the Box, they were going to school to get their real estate licenses and to improve their English. Within a year they were both working in real estate and after 5 years of hard work and saving they were able to become brokers and own their own real estate office. She could not understand why people who lived in the US did not take full advantage of all the opportunity the country allowed. The success she enjoyed in the US was not even imaginable in China.
The opportunities are out there for the people who are willing to get off their fat butts and go after them. Life is a competition, the winners will win, and the slackers will whine about how unfair life has been to them and demand more unemployment and entitlements.
I always love the one in a million feel good stories about how easy it is to do all this. The reality of your story is most that try this fail. So no in the big picture this scenario doesn't work. You are also talking of a different time in life as well. You think right now it would be just as easy? No one is spending money, Just look at today's retail report. I'm sorry but your out of touch with reality in a big way.
What makes you think they are different groups? The employed today will be the unemployed/under-employed tomorrow. We are all in this sinking ship together.
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I love how the employed also think we love living on half of what we use to make and we really cant make all our bills anymore and its great staying home for 2 years because we have no money.
