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Old 05-27-2010, 11:00 AM
 
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Here's the message from our manager sent to herself and Bcc'ed (blind carbon copy) to either everyone in the department or a select few, I dunno..me included. (I am out of the office now but check in to work email and tickets periodically during the day, to stay on top of matters since they don't offer current employees refresher training, despite our requests. As such, we pretty much have to self-train and when I'm on duty, there's little/no time for that).

the directive:
--During today’s customer service meeting, you were not logged off from (our CRM ticketing application). The supervisors, myself and the CS management have all stressed the importance of this in the past. It goes without saying that you should all log off from the CRM when you are away from your workstation.
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Hmm, panties in a bunch, much? Apparently they have this thing where when you're away from your desk you are asked to log off. Why? After 15 minutes of inactivity, the session expires anyway, logging you off automatically. I don't see what the big deal is if you lock Windows and walk away for a few minutes. Are they afraid someone will answer tickets on someone else's behalf? Would you ask the manager why she's making a big deal of this or just ignore the directive. It's such a hassle to log in and out each time you go to the bathroom and walk around. I see this logging off requirement as a way to spy on us and see how often we do step away from our computers, just like a call center. I thought our office management was a little more lax.
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
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Just do it. It's a directive.
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:56 AM
 
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Would you ask the manager why she's making a big deal of this or just ignore the directive.

Neither. Just do it the way managment tells you to do it.
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:58 AM
 
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I wouldn't challenge the rules that are that small. Management hate that.
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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This is the very same management you rail against for NOT enforcing their own policies (liked FIFO for tickets) right? So it's only the policies YOU care about that you are willing to go along with?

Just do it ffs.
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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Are you just trying to get fired?
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Here
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You have to play the game and work life will be a lot easier for you if you do the apparently meaningless little things the manager asks. Management has a reason and it could be that your manager’s boss said something to her about an open session he saw, was told about, or caused a problem somewhere and this annoyed him (or her).
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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Would you ask the manager why she's making a big deal of this or just ignore the directive.
Neither. I would follow the directive.

SHE isn't the one making a big deal of it. YOU are.

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It's such a hassle to log in and out each time you go to the bathroom and walk around.
Good grief its a few keystrokes. If you are good enough at your job it shouldn't even take one second. Hardly a hassle. And how often are you 'walking around' and going to the bathroom anyway? Especially when you are only there part-time.

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I see this logging off requirement as a way to spy on us and see how often we do step away from our computers, just like a call center. I thought our office management was a little more lax.
You're just now figuring out that your job is based on speed and the only way the employer can measure this is to monitor your computer usage??
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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It's their rule. Just follow it.

This is one of the oldest ways in the book to spoof their productivity tracking efforts. Works well and that's why they hate it. You stay logged in all the time and it looks like you are working even if you aren't at your desk.

If a call comes in on your ACD and you miss it, no big deal as long as you are taking enough total calls to offset the one you missed. Some ACD systems count outgoing as calls too so you just call your co-workers to jack up the numbers.

Oh, and don't forget to stay in edit mode on old closed tickets. That really jacks up your numbers too.

If you get caught doing these things, it drives them nuts because they realize you know how to get around their electronic babysitting devices. The safest course of action is to just do what you are supposed to be doing. Save the tricks for some time when you really NEED them.
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Old 05-27-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Here's the message from our manager sent to herself and Bcc'ed (blind carbon copy) to either everyone in the department or a select few, I dunno..me included. (I am out of the office now but check in to work email and tickets periodically during the day, to stay on top of matters since they don't offer current employees refresher training, despite our requests. As such, we pretty much have to self-train and when I'm on duty, there's little/no time for that).

the directive:
--During today’s customer service meeting, you were not logged off from (our CRM ticketing application). The supervisors, myself and the CS management have all stressed the importance of this in the past. It goes without saying that you should all log off from the CRM when you are away from your workstation.
------------

Hmm, panties in a bunch, much? Apparently they have this thing where when you're away from your desk you are asked to log off. Why? After 15 minutes of inactivity, the session expires anyway, logging you off automatically. I don't see what the big deal is if you lock Windows and walk away for a few minutes. Are they afraid someone will answer tickets on someone else's behalf? Would you ask the manager why she's making a big deal of this or just ignore the directive. It's such a hassle to log in and out each time you go to the bathroom and walk around. I see this logging off requirement as a way to spy on us and see how often we do step away from our computers, just like a call center. I thought our office management was a little more lax.
If you fail to follow the directive, you could be fired for insubordination. It's the employer's dime and they have the right to request that employees log in and out of the system while away from their desk. If I were your employer, I'd like to keep tabs on whether my employees are actually working versus goofing off.
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