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Old 06-06-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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A city with no soul.

I ve been there in 2001, and realized its a beautiful place scenery-wise, but it lacks the most important thing: it doesnt feel like a city, it doesnt have a vibe to it. I was SHOCKED! the month i was there that you hardly see people walking in the street! With that amazing walkable weather LA haves...people are inside their houses or their cars....what kind of city is that? It lacks the most important thing an important city should have: soul, heart, identity.

LA is like a huge wasted opportunity: great scenery, great weather, great wealth: but no real spirit.

Its sad actually. LA is a sad city.
Never been but your reflect my impression entirely. To me it has always appeared to be motorways with little in the way of centre.
Everything I detest about a city.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:10 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Never been but your reflect my impression entirely. To me it has always appeared to be motorways with little in the way of centre.
Everything I detest about a city.
I don't know what your interests are or if you've already visited the States, but if you haven't, trust me and don't skimp on LA when you fly in. There's a multitude of different types of attractions (both natural and man-made) that will be sure to impress. LA's greater metropolitan area includes some of the most famous and scenic metropolitan regions in the entire US.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Well coming from Australia LA is the main point of entry. Unlike most people it seems, LA utterly fascinates me: it is ground zero for so much of American pop culture, particularly film, television, and music (especially for a fan of 60s and 70s music) that there was no way in HELL I would miss it. Everyone always sings the Bay City's praises, and don't get me wrong, if I'd more time I'd definitely have visited it, but LA has so much to offer. Sure there are many negative things about it, but it also offers a ton to see and do that I don't think anyone should write it off. On the same trip I saw other famous cities like San Diego, Las Vegas, Austin, Houston, New Orleans, Memphis, Nashville, Washington D.C., New York and Boston.
This is true. It's always a matter of personal tastes and interests, of course. I know there are some really nice places in the LA area. It's not a wasteland by any stretch of the imagination.

BUT, as a whole, I just don't think LA comes off as esthetically pleasing for most people. It's like a massive, semi-urban sprawl. In fact, I have a hard time believing my eyes at how sprawled it is. Architecturally, LA is not all that either. This is why I recommend people visit other more picturesque and traditionally centralized cities first when they come to the U.S. Chances are that they would leave a much better first impression. Go visit LA afterwards if you have more time to tour the different places there.

(This is unless you have an interest in LA specifically. That's different.)
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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This is true. It's always a matter of personal tastes and interests, of course. I know there are some really nice places in the LA area. It's not a wasteland by any stretch of the imagination.

BUT, as a whole, I just don't think LA comes off as esthetically pleasing for most people. It's like a massive, semi-urban sprawl. In fact, I have a hard time believing my eyes at how sprawled it is. Architecturally, LA is not all that either. This is why I recommend people visit other more picturesque and traditionally centralized cities first when they come to the U.S. Chances are that they would leave a much better first impression. Go visit LA afterwards when you have more time to tour the different places there.
Yes someone coming from Europe would probably be a bit overwhelmed by how big and spread out LA and it's attractions are. While the metro took us most places, there are some places you just need a car to go to. Unlike most major metropolises, where you can base yourself in the city centre where most of the attractions are and take a train/bus, rent a car for the day to see some attraction which is a bit further afield, most of LA's attractions are spread out. There's one major downtown: Downtown isn't even where most of the tourists stay. The hotels are quite well spread out between Hollywood, WeHo, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica...with many areas emerging like Studio City, Los Feliz, Silver Lake, and even far south in Long Beach, and around Disneyland in Anaheim.

Still, I managed to pack in quite a lot in the 6 days or so I spent there. Based in Hollywood (right on the Blvd) I saw a lot of what was in Hollywood, went to Griffith Park, Thai Town, Little Armenia, Los Feliz, WestHo, Beverly Hills, Downtown (Olvera Street was a little taste of Mexico), Koreatown, Little Tokyo, East LA, Pasadena, NoHo, Van Nuys in the valley, Santa Monica, Venice, Long Beach, Disneyland/Anaheim.

If given more time I would've liked to check out Laurel Canyon, Mt. Wilson, Angeles St Forest, the San Bernardino, Malibu, checked out Melrose Avenue.etc.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:20 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Yes someone coming from Europe would probably be a bit overwhelmed by how big and spread out LA and it's attractions are. While the metro took us most places, there are some places you just need a car to go to. Unlike most major metropolises, where you can base yourself in the city centre where most of the attractions are and take a train/bus, rent a car for the day to see some attraction which is a bit further afield, most of LA's attractions are spread out. There's one major downtown: Downtown isn't even where most of the tourists stay. The hotels are quite well spread out between Hollywood, WeHo, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica...with many areas emerging like Studio City, Los Feliz, Silver Lake, and even far south in Long Beach, and around Disneyland in Anaheim.

Still, I managed to pack in quite a lot in the 6 days or so I spent there. Based in Hollywood (right on the Blvd) I saw a lot of what was in Hollywood, went to Griffith Park, Thai Town, Little Armenia, Los Feliz, WestHo, Beverly Hills, Downtown (Olvera Street was a little taste of Mexico), Koreatown, Little Tokyo, East LA, Pasadena, NoHo, Van Nuys in the valley, Santa Monica, Venice, Long Beach, Disneyland/Anaheim.

If given more time I would've liked to check out Laurel Canyon, Mt. Wilson, Angeles St Forest, the San Bernardino, Malibu, checked out Melrose Avenue.etc.
Dang! You've seen more of LA than I have ... And I LIVE here! LOL!
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Dang! You've seen more of LA than I have ... And I LIVE here! LOL!
Lol, what can I say I like to explore, and not just the touristy areas!

My friend and I went for a walk in downtown LA at time. It was so quiet it was eerie...we also ran into some trouble when we decided to go for a walk early in the morning on the Blvd (it was also very quiet) and ran into two guys who made us a bit uncomfortable and claimed (jokingly, I hope!) they were Russian Mafia. They kept such a straight, serious, face, though we weren't going to hang about to find out! They asked us where to find drugs, enough said.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Macao
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the month i was there that you hardly see people walking in the street! With that amazing walkable weather LA haves...people are inside their houses or their cars....what kind of city is that?
That's the biggest tragedy of all. An incredible climate for walking around, and it was never built for it's greatest asset.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Plantation, Florida
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A city with no soul.

I ve been there in 2001, and realized its a beautiful place scenery-wise, but it lacks the most important thing: it doesnt feel like a city, it doesnt have a vibe to it. I was SHOCKED! the month i was there that you hardly see people walking in the street! With that amazing walkable weather LA haves...people are inside their houses or their cars....what kind of city is that? It lacks the most important thing an important city should have: soul, heart, identity.

LA is like a huge wasted opportunity: great scenery, great weather, great wealth: but no real spirit.

Its sad actually. LA is a sad city.
As a 10 year resident of L.A. from 1985 - 1995. This comment is correct.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Plantation, Florida
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Went back last year to visit friends .......... First time back since leaving in 1995. Wow..... Traffic and people 10x more/worse. Also, noticed way more Immigrants from India, and Jews have just about taken over the entire San Fernando Valley .......... Rented 1 month at Oakwood Apartments - Woodland Hills and was overwelmed and taken back from seeing so many people from India and Asia ....... People rarely spoke any English. As a native born American, I kinda felt like a second class citizen.
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:34 AM
 
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Went back last year to visit friends .......... First time back since leaving in 1995. Wow..... Traffic and people 10x more/worse. Also, noticed way more Immigrants from India, and Jews have just about taken over the entire San Fernando Valley .......... Rented 1 month at Oakwood Apartments - Woodland Hills and was overwelmed and taken back from seeing so many people from India and Asia ....... People rarely spoke any English. As a native born American, I kinda felt like a second class citizen.
Your description sounds very much like Sydney and Melbourne Australia apart from the Jews as the amount of Jews is small compared to over in the USA.
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