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Old 10-08-2011, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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This is dumb.

You could go to both Mexico and Canada without a passport until 9/11.
You could right up until about 2009 or 2010, because it was so crucially important that passports be required, that it took them about 8 years to send out the memos telling border officials to require passports. It's not a short term effort to combat terrorism, it's part of the long-term plan to turn the USA into a permanent police state of a fully regimented citizenry under constant surveillance.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Paris, France
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I very much like the concept of the Schengen zone, even if the application is not perfect. Trusting the judgment of your friends and allies is a good thing to do. "People you have accepted into your country are welcome in my country as well, because I trust your instincts and laws." Isn't that the whole point of having allies?
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:49 PM
 
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My country is the USA, and our best friend is currently Iran. Thanks to Iran, trillions of dollars are circulating in our economy, in arms production, military-scientific research and development, wages, training and support to military personnel, with millions of jobs created.

Without Iran, the US economy would be in a shambles and we'd be a third world country, just taking in each other's laundry.. Or else we would have to create an Iran. (Which, come to think of it, is how Iran got to be what it is in the first place.)
I think the slam-bam-thank-you-m'am love affair that the U.S. and Pakistan had awhile back has been clearly heading into the same territory as our previous one with Iran.
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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Nepal is neither hostile nor friendly. I guess they are just indifferent.



India actually helped Bangladesh get freedom from Pakistan. Bangladesh used to be East Pakistan but eventually, with military help from India, became Bangladesh. The relations have gone downhill from their own. Border skirmishes between illegal Bangladeshi immigrants and the Indian Border Security Forces (BSF) is a regular feature. Horror stories of brutalities committed by BSF haven't really endeared Indians to Bangladeshis.

I don't think India will ever chummy up to China. India and China did wage a war against each other. China has always supported Pakistan, provided them with advanced weapon design and possibly even nuclear know-how. China has handed Indian territory it captured in the last war to Pakistan. China still has occasional skirmishes with India along the border. There is really a lot of ill-will between the two countries to have anything more then an un-easy working relationship.

India has a lot of allies....just no friends.
I suspect that ( originally) your country easily could have had cultural/blood ties with Iran, but after Iran has been overrun by Arabs, this obviously couldn't be a case any longer. It's probably the same case with Pakistan ( how did they become Islamic at the first place, because this seems to be a major problem in the relations between two countries - no?)
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I think the slam-bam-thank-you-m'am love affair that the U.S. and Pakistan had awhile back has been clearly heading into the same territory as our previous one with Iran.
America is CRAZY to even think of being friends with Pakistan. Terrorists in Pakistan all but have a green light to do whatever the hell they want.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I suspect that ( originally) your country easily could have had cultural/blood ties with Iran, but after Iran has been overrun by Arabs, this obviously couldn't be a case any longer. It's probably the same case with Pakistan ( how did they become Islamic at the first place, because this seems to be a major problem in the relations between two countries - no?)
India's friend would be Bhutan. Both countries co-operate on a number of issues, Indian currency is valid in Bhutan, easy border crossing, etc.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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UK's closest friends are Ireland, Norway and USA.
Never

Australia and New Zealand every time.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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I suspect that ( originally) your country easily could have had cultural/blood ties with Iran, but after Iran has been overrun by Arabs, this obviously couldn't be a case any longer. It's probably the same case with Pakistan ( how did they become Islamic at the first place, because this seems to be a major problem in the relations between two countries - no?)
That is true. India and Iran have cultural/linguistic/blood-ties with each other. This goes back 1000 of years. While India and Iran's relationship has been patchy lately, it is not because of the reason that you state. India does not support Iran's nuclear stance, nor is it comfortable with Iran siding with Pakistan.

As for Pakistan, the basic foundation of the country rests on religion. In 1947, Pakistan was carved out of India (along with Bangladesh). Dr. Mohammed Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan argued that the Muslims of the Indian sub-continent needed a country of their own to prevent their domination by the majority Hindus. And so was Pakistan born, with the painful migration of Indian Muslims to Pakistan (many did stay behind).

India's issue with Pakistan is that Pakistan insists Kashmir belongs to Pakistan. Pakistan has been actively supporting terrorism in Kashmir (and other parts of India) by setting up terrorists training camps in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir and helping them cross the border into India. Pakistan military provides training to these terrorists and then aids them in crossing over to India by shelling and firing at Indian border posts.

EDIT: India has the 3rd largest population of Muslims in Asia. India has never had issues with Pakistan (or for that matter any other country) simply because they were Islamists.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:22 AM
 
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Canada/US
UK/Netherlands
France/Germany
Spain/Portugal
Greece/Cyprus
Australia/NZ
Poland/Lithuania
Russia/Belarus
Pakistan/China
Sweden/Denmark
Finland/Estonia
Norway/Iceland
Switzerland/Austria
Moldova/Romania
Italy/Croatia
CzechRep/Slovakia
Venezuela/Bolivia
Maybe?
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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That is true. India and Iran have cultural/linguistic/blood-ties with each other. This goes back 1000 of years. While India and Iran's relationship has been patchy lately, it is not because of the reason that you state. India does not support Iran's nuclear stance, nor is it comfortable with Iran siding with Pakistan.
Of course then, it's because of the reason I've stated. To be overrun by Arabs ( talking about Iran in this case) means precisely that - to be Islamisized ( with the original religion of Zoroastrism being abolished, culture being changed and the rest.) And of course in this case Iran would side with Pakistan, and of course India wouldn't feel comfortable neither with Iran's nuclear program, nor with its support to Pakistan. Heh.


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As for Pakistan, the basic foundation of the country rests on religion.
Thank you. The question is - how did they get this religion at the first place.


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In 1947, Pakistan was carved out of India (along with Bangladesh). Dr. Mohammed Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan argued that the Muslims of the Indian sub-continent needed a country of their own to prevent their domination by the majority Hindus. And so was Pakistan born, with the painful migration of Indian Muslims to Pakistan (many did stay behind).

India's issue with Pakistan is that Pakistan insists Kashmir belongs to Pakistan. Pakistan has been actively supporting terrorism in Kashmir (and other parts of India) by setting up terrorists training camps in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir and helping them cross the border into India. Pakistan military provides training to these terrorists and then aids them in crossing over to India by shelling and firing at Indian border posts.

EDIT: India has the 3rd largest population of Muslims in Asia. India has never had issues with Pakistan (or for that matter any other country) simply because they were Islamists.
If India doesn't have any problems with Muslims, that doesn't mean that Muslims don't have problems with India))))
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