How can we win on terrorism? (house, buy, construction)

[fariborze]

In my mind , there is third option for crisis of middle east , it's change Mullas' Regim in Iran by support Iranian people and their resistance.
Because This regim export their crisis in Iran to all of the world with terror.

Hitting Tehran where it hurts

Washington Times - Editorial
Aug 20, 2007
If the new sanctions imposed on Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) by the Bush administration are to have any meaningful, positive effect on Iranian behavior, they have to be seen as a first step toward pressuring Europe and Japan to curtail their financial relationships with the Iranian regime. Already confusion has emerged through leaks to The Washington Post and New York Times about how far the sanctions actually go.
Michael Jacobson of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (who previously served as a senior adviser in the Treasury Department's Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence) observes that The Post's Aug. 15 account reported that the IRGC would be hit with sanctions under Executive Order 13224 (E.O. 13224) — issued on Sept. 23, 2001, by President Bush. Almost 500 people and entities are on this list. But according to the Times, the IRGC would be listed as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO), joining approximately 40 other groups on that list. In a paper co-authored with Washington Institute scholar Patrick Clawson, Mr. Jacobson writes that the FTO listing would apply only to accounts at financial institutions but not to other types of property. But the E.O. 13224 designation would mean that "all assets of the designated entity within U.S. jurisdiction are frozen, including not only bank accounts but all other property as well."
The IRGC has long operated as a kind of Mafia on steroids — with its own intelligence service, army, navy and financial empire in which Iranian officials enrich themselves through shady deals and brute force. So, why has Washington decided to press ahead now against the Revolutionary Guard? In all likelihood it did so to increase pressure on companies overseas to stop trading with and investing in Iran. The United States has attempted to achieve this through the United Nations, but Security Council resolutions imposing sanctions on Iran have left the IRGC free to conduct its business activities, and progress on a new resolution has been stalled due to Russian and Chinese willingness to run interference for Tehran. The critical challenge for U.S. policy-makers right now is to find a way to persuade the Europeans and the Japanese to join us in circumventing the Security Council.

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[Reivax]

Stay out of other country's affairs in the first place.
People don't attack the US because they have nothing to do or some inbred hatred of the US. They do it because the US meddles in the affairs of nations.

How would you like it if the guy down the street kept coming in your house, whenever he felt like it, and told you how to educate your kids, how to handle relations with your wife, how and when you could put your trash cans out to the curb, whether you could walk your dog at night.
Would you be throwing your hands up, screaming who in hell are you and what makes you think you can come in my house and tell me how to run it?
And the whole time this guy does this to you, he has this righteous idea in his head that he's doing it for your own good because he doesn't think you're capable of doing it for yourself.

Get the idea?

yeah. I say 4th option for the crisis.
Withdraw and stay as far away from the middle east as possible.
Leave them to run their own affairs.

[Minnehahapolitan]

Yeah, we should try to covertly overthrow governments we don't like. We could use the CIA, seeing as they have been so successful in similar operations in Cuba, Granada, Iran and Nicaragua. Here's my plan, if the governmemnt screw up in Iran, you have the whole world behind us, and we go start a war between Iran and the other 191 other nations.

[Marodi]

You can't. Terrorism, like drugs, has always existed. Try not to provoke it is the only way to prevent being the target.

[jhassler]

Stopping terrorism is like saying, "how do I get people to stop agreeing w/ me?" No matter your opinion, if you express it someone is going to disagree with it. The American way of life (good, bad, indifferent...not making a value judgement here) is broadcast around the world daily, we're a target to those who have ideological differences with us (good, bad, or indifferent...again...stating vanilla facts here)...Waging war and removing governments probably isn't the best way to go about doing things.

My answer for the abatement of terrorism is INTELLIGENCE, INTELLIGENCE, INTELLIGENCE. Instead of spending billions confiscating 5 oz. bottles of shampoo and nail clippers at airports, invest those billions into intelligence networks around the world. Gather intel on the attacks, gather more intel, gather some more...stop it before it happens.

...i think that may be the only way..unfortunately.

[Willys]

Originally Posted by Reivax

Stay out of other country's affairs in the first place.
People don't attack the US because they have nothing to do or some inbred hatred of the US. They do it because the US meddles in the affairs of nations.

How would you like it if the guy down the street kept coming in your house, whenever he felt like it, and told you how to educate your kids, how to handle relations with your wife, how and when you could put your trash cans out to the curb, whether you could walk your dog at night.
Would you be throwing your hands up, screaming who in hell are you and what makes you think you can come in my house and tell me how to run it?
And the whole time this guy does this to you, he has this righteous idea in his head that he's doing it for your own good because he doesn't think you're capable of doing it for yourself.

Get the idea?

yeah. I say 4th option for the crisis.
Withdraw and stay as far away from the middle east as possible.
Leave them to run their own affairs.

Yeah. Richard Nixon tried that with the DNC back in '72. Got his ass whipped for it.

[Xpat]

Remember the war on drugs? How about the war on poverty?

You can't win a war declared against a method of warfare (which terrorism is), a concept, or a phenomena.

To minimize the effects, the following steps would be helpful:

-Lose the paranoia and fear (and stop voting for people who try to scare you) - remember, we're supposed to be the "home of the brave."

-Be much more careful about how and where we decide to use force. Don't launch unprovoked invasions of Arab nations then botch the reconstruction effort.

-Make an effort to engage the world the way we did during the Cold War. For a country that is supposedly so slick with image making, we do a horrible job of telling our story around the world. During the 1990s, we used military force to save Muslims being killed in the Balkans - but no one in the Islamic world seems to know this.

-Reduce our dependence on oil until we don't need any from outside of our hemisphere. That way, when there is a problem in the Middle East - we just watch with interest but don't need to get involved.

-Instead of economic embargos of nations like Iran, do the opposite and trade with them like crazy. A cultural invasion of hip-hop music, skateboards, and big macs is more powerful than sending our entire Army there. It worked with the eastern bloc, so why not give it a try (and do the same with Cuba to boot).

[Willys]

Poverty, like drugs, like terrorism, has always existed and always will, wars not withstanding. So, how do we get rid of terrorism?

Close borders, absolutely. Establish rigorous standards for admission into the U.S., regardless of visa status. Require visa holders to report to Visa officers monthly, in person. Require all visa holders to speak English as soon as they arrive at a U.S. border. Require all U.S. citizens to hold valid and current I.D. for proof of citizenship. Bring ALL U.S. troops to U.S. mainland. Let other countries provide their own protection from terrorism or other influence. These troops could be used to line the Mexico and Canada borders, they can form a human chain, holding hands. Maybe sing Cumbaya, to prevent Canadian snooping.

Reduce imports dramatically, especially of oil, using U.S. drilled oil and gas as a primary source of energy and do not sell abroad. Open ANWAR, the Gulf of Mexico deepwater, east and west coast offshore and productive states to drilling for oil and gas, with reduced federal regulation. Reduce federal regulation and environmental strangulation to allow construction of additional refinery capacity in the U.S. With an end to most imports we could focus on importing French wines only, thus causing great pleasure about the international community.

Once borders are secure and energy needs have been met, plan for the future, such as wind farms along all U.S. coastal waters. Since a majority of U.S. citizens now live in coastal states this will allow those coastal areas to provide for their own energy needs. States such as those on the Gulf coast are fully capable of taking care of their own energy needs. However, states such as Massachusetts and Washington have not designed their economies for self sustenance. Self sustenance or equal exhange should be a requirement for all states and could be administered by yet another government bureaucracy.

These ideas are only a start. I'm sure we can find and development multiple extended methods to reduce U.S. participation in a global economy. We could probly try hard enough to find a way to reduce our dependence on our federal government as well.

It just takes a will, a way and a national desire to do so.



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[ron17571]

Willys got the idea,no more anchor babys.I think south korea can hold there own,if not there can always be a submarine close by.pull troops out of japan and germany and anywhere else where were probly not wanted.let the middle east fight it out on their own.and use our own resources,ive had people tell me storys of friends on drilling rigs capping off wells for years,just the other day a guy told me he thought the north slope in alaska could provide enough oil for years.anouther told me of an engineer talking about there being hundreds of years of oil in the harbor in los angeles.i really dont care what the world thinks of the usa.we dont produce much now and without jobs and money we cant buy much either.we need to get it together before we become anouther mexico.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by Willys

Close borders, absolutely. Establish rigorous standards for admission into the U.S., regardless of visa status. Require visa holders to report to Visa officers monthly, in person. Require all visa holders to speak English as soon as they arrive at a U.S. border. Require all U.S. citizens to hold valid and current I.D. for proof of citizenship. Bring ALL U.S. troops to U.S. mainland. Let other countries provide their own protection from terrorism or other influence. These troops could be used to line the Mexico and Canada borders, they can form a human chain, holding hands. Maybe sing Cumbaya, to prevent Canadian snooping.

Close borders? How will one get to Alaska? That's asking for secession right there. You must be wishing them to join Canada.

Since you focus too much on national borders, how about our state borders? Let's close them. State guard troops lining the state borders forming a human chain holding hands. Why don't we establish background checks and visas for out-of-staters trying to move into a state? Make those out-of-state visa holders report to a visa officer monthly--NO MORE MAULDINS!!!