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Old 03-11-2009, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Definitely cant add Bush to the same league as Hitler,Polpot and & co .. who were openly brutal!

That being said, we should'nt forget that history was always written by the victorious.

Did anyone maintain a list of human right violations nameless leaders committed even a couple of centuries ago.. when there was no League of Nations, or UNO?!!!
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: NC
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Mao Zedong most of his economic and industrial programs were abject failures and his agracultural reforms caused the worst famine in history killing 36 million people from 1958-1961.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:25 PM
 
Location: El Cajon, CA
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hitler
bush
stalin
**** you
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Mao Zedong most of his economic and industrial programs were abject failures and his agracultural reforms caused the worst famine in history killing 36 million people from 1958-1961.
ohh...Didnt know that!
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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Stalin pol pot and mao killed more than the nazis and japanese. For war crimes hitler and tojo
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Old 03-14-2009, 03:05 PM
 
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Stalin
Hitler
Ghengis Khan
pol pot
bush (YES he is just as bad, not just cuz he was an awful president and an idiot but also because he's responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians during his 8 years - whether openly brutal or not- he's still responsible.)
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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Mao Zedong most of his economic and industrial programs were abject failures and his agracultural reforms caused the worst famine in history killing 36 million people from 1958-1961.
i second that, by the way the figure is upgraded to 66 million people being murdered!! So for me he´s number one. in comparisson Pol Pot was very bad, cause a quarter of a population was killed in one nation, Cambodja. imagine if sucha person would have done that in China or India.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh--Home of the 6 time Super Bowl Champions!
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To EVERYONE who is saying "Bush"...

Maybe y'all should move to a dictatorship country like North Korea. Then we will see what you think of Bush. Have your freedoms taken away from you, be executed for wearing make-up, glasses, or something menial. Be publicly flogged for not wearing your veil over your face, showing your legs...

Get real!

Bush may not be the brightest light bulb in the pack, but he certainly is not a dictator. He doesn't even rank near to Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jong II, Pol Pot...
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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executed for wearing make-up, glasses, or something menial.
This can happen under the Patriot Act and many bills that the administration signed into power. If you are labeled enemy combatment, you can be silently executed for militairy tribunal and Homeland Security definition of a terrorist is ...basicly anybody.
But the same laws are impleneted from Australiia to europe and the UK.
It's because bankers who buy politicians are in control.
The same royal families and european aristocracy where the US freed itself from has hijacked the Us via the Federalreserve Act in 1923 and establishing a Central Bankwich is not Sederal and not a reserve but a private rin with Wallstreet and european banks, like the Bank of amsterdam being one of the private banks that own the Fed. It's not part of your goverment, but the families who owned those banks created a whole infrastructure for controlling both political parties and their own thinktank bussies always get elected. People only elect people that are selected. JFK and Eisenhower, had speeches and warned about it. the JFK speech is especially bizar, cause he talksa bout secret societies hijacjing the US. Everything we all thoughtt o know is not true

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Maybe y'all should move to a dictatorship country like North Korea. Then we will see what you think of Bush. Have your freedoms taken away from you, be executed for wearing make-up, glasses, or something menial. Be publicly flogged for not wearing your veil over your face, showing your legs...
That in blue is not happening in N-Korea but fundementalistic moslem countries like saoudi Arabia.

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Bush may not be the brightest light bulb in the pack, but he certainly is not a dictator. He doesn't even rank near to Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jong II, Pol Pot...
Well, the laws he signed into existance and centralizing powers are greater then anything seen, and even teh way prisoners can disappear without trial and get tortured and executed is never been put on paper in any country legally, not in any of the dictatorships you mentioned.
It's very serious. so now people are dependend on the fiat of their rulers. Like Obama is not rolling back any dictatorial power of bush.
It's admitted by mainstream news and insiders that the bush adm. had dictatorial powers.
It has nothing to do with the US but an internationalist elite of bankers and corporates, that trace back to england and the Netherlands, Mercantilism The Western world has the anglo Dutch system of mercantilism, called free trade supposedly, but it's international maritime law. That's why the Statue of Liberty is not the Statue of freedom. It could not stand on land, illegal. On the land is cannon law of the Vatican on the sease the British-Dutch maritime law of mercentalism.The Statue of liberty is standing for the freedom for internatinalist to trade, the royal families and aristocracy of europe still are in control.

All leaders, presidents and prime ministers are puppets of the internationalists, they are given power, cause they are elected after they are selected by the aristocracy. Every american president, except one we don't know is of the european royal bloodlines, it's a face, it's been researched by libraries of geneology.Obama is related to cheney and to european royal families, even Obama. He's a bit of everything, Arab, Keynian etc. The bush family is a German family who managed to get American nationality illegally and was pushed by the Harriman and rokcefeller family. They run many companies that make profit of war. Bush grandfather, Prescott bush funded the Nazi's, he was ana ctive supporter of that nazi ideology and it's all declassified.
You would be surprised how much evidence there exist about what i just told you.
Mao, it declassified ....is put in power by Wallstreetbankers, the same families that owna nd created the Federal reserve and control the American moneysupply and work for the British and Dutch royal families
what do you think that creditcrisis is about? consolidation..in the end these too big too fail banks wich are kept floating by the tyaxpayer and moneycreation will bail out the treasury wich goes bankrupt by the enormosu debtsand deficits and they will buiy up everything for a penny on the dollar and the rockefeller created IMF told this in 2005 according to their own documents that they would crash the worldeconomy and consolidate everything.
$10 billion is already put in these banks, almost the size of the american economy and it 'wasn't done by any reserves, but by debt and moneycreation, so it never can go gfood and we're all going to be vapourized, European economies will get destroyed. It'sa Globalconsolidation of internationalist and their puppets in our goverments that loot and plunder us to get theri globally and regionally centralized system they are working on for 100 years step by step via their thinktanks where royal families and influential families take part in.

solet's forget about any leader , those we elect wich are selected, cause they'r all jokes and they don't even know anything about economics or anything , but via their advisors, wich all come from these thinktanks.
There is no real freedom anywhere, just a system that appears like it, it's freedom bases on the goodwill of some elitists, smoke and mirros to keep us thinking we ar free, while they change the laws and the laws adopted under the bush adm. are extremely scary. In the Uk even far worse now, total police state. They even wantt o regulate your heating by satellite there. and get fined for washing your car in your street etc etc. all that is slowly going globally, the UK taking the lead. australia's constitution is destroyed, that of the US, that of European nations.
a total surveillance and electronic grid is being implemented and planned that makes N-Korea looklike a kintergarten.

Why? People, Westeners have been sleepinga while, not defending their freedoms, not being on guard of changes of law, while the most corrupt and controlfreaks have managed their way to the top in poitics, the corporate world and thinktansk where both gather behind closed doors.

Obama or any Democrat, Republican or anybody in France or Germany or wherever is not going to make any change, cause they areall part of this internationalist system and the third way ..merging of the US and USSR system into a micromanagement community.

Bush was just the right person to deceive conservatives and christian fundementalists, like many liberals buy into Obama's smooth and wellspoken speeches.

The worst leaders, plural who put most dictators into power globally and devided and conquered nations for interrests are leaders of the aristocracy, royal families, they hold the real power and their bankers in London and Wallstreet, they are safe out of sight of everybody, they on't get blamed, they know we kick out their puppets from office, while another puppet comes in and continues the same game. We only vote in new presidents, prime ministers and political parties, got we got sick with the last one sitting right? That's called democracy.
The nazi's where funded by the same families, in the US the Rockefeller / Harriman /Bush families.
Germany dind't have so muhc steel for it's warmachine, it was totally bankrupt from WWI and repaying of WWI of damage, guess where all that steel was coming from?

I just tell this to tell anybody not aware that it's useless to even talk about our leaders and who's the worst, cause the people behind them are really teh worst!!
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Old 03-18-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh--Home of the 6 time Super Bowl Champions!
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That in blue is not happening in N-Korea but fundementalistic moslem countries like saoudi Arabia.
I know it isn't happening in N. Korea--was only using N.Korea as an example of a dictatorship. Try going out without your black robe and veil over in the muslim countries and see what happens.

But to even say that Bush ranks up there with Stalin, Kim Jong II, Hitler, Pol Pot is simply laughable.
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