Worst leader in the world ever (calculated, living in, cost of)

[Huckleberry3911948]

Originally Posted by Timothylogan3

so who do you guys think is the worst leader in the world, regardless of time and country?

hitler.
63 years ago took 2 giants usa and russia all they had to stop 1 lil country called germany at the cost of 25 million lives.
scary stuff
stephen s
san diego ca

[jufrbo]

Hitler is the obvious answer. But take away the whole genicide thing, In only a few years he took Germany from being economically depressed to being a world Super power. That does seem irrelevant because of the holocaust.

Worst ever? I'd say Pol Pot for many reasons.

To the people who say Bush, get real, he may be one of the worst US presidents, but before you call him the worst leader ever, go through this checklist.
1. Clean running water. check
2. vehicle (or two) in the garage. check
3. Refrigerator full of food. check
4. Free speech. check
5. Job. check
I could go on but it seems redundant. Do me a favor and grow up, and vote.

[LordBalfor]

Originally Posted by JustinFromBoise

Hitler is the obvious answer. But take away the whole genicide thing, In only a few years he took Germany from being economically depressed to being a world Super power. That does seem irrelevant because of the holocaust.

Worst ever? I'd say Pol Pot for many reasons.

To the people who say Bush, get real, he may be one of the worst US presidents, but before you call him the worst leader ever, go through this checklist.
1. Clean running water. check
2. vehicle (or two) in the garage. check
3. Refrigerator full of food. check
4. Free speech. check
5. Job. check
I could go on but it seems redundant. Do me a favor and grow up, and vote.

Good post.
Pol Pot certainly ranks up there.

When talking about Hitler, one needs to keep in mind that you can't just look at what he accomplished in 1933-1939 and stop in 1939. Up until then he HAD accomplished a lot, but in the subsequent years he took his country down a path to total ruin, division and occupation. People have a tendency to look at his amazing oratory skills and achievements during the early years and say "Wow! look at that!" - and then simply neglect to think about what Germany was like in the spring of 1945.
That was one of Hitlers "achievements" too.

Ken

[Moth]

Originally Posted by LordBalfor

Good post.
Pol Pot certainly ranks up there.

When talking about Hitler, one needs to keep in mind that you can't just look at what he accomplished in 1933-1939 and stop in 1939. Up until then he HAD accomplished a lot, but in the subsequent years he took his country down a path to total ruin, division and occupation. People have a tendency to look at his amazing oratory skills and achievements during the early years and say "Wow! look at that!" - and then simply neglect to think about what Germany was like in the spring of 1945.
That was one of Hitlers "achievements" too.

Ken

That is quite true.

I would even say that the 1933-1939 period was no picnic either as it included, among other things, the dismemberment of Czeckoslovakia, the Nuremburg Laws and the Night of Long Knives.

[LordBalfor]

Originally Posted by Moth

That is quite true.

I would even say that the 1933-1939 period was no picnic either as it included, among other things, the dismemberment of Czeckoslovakia, the Nuremburg Laws and the Night of Long Knives.

Yeah, pretty ugly even then - but at least during THAT period the country (overall) prospered - even if it was at a terrible price regarding personal freedoms.

Even that period was NOT a fair trade in my opinion though - so yeah, you're right.

Ken

[Om Bee]

OK, OK....

Could somebody tell me who is Pol Pot?

Maybe it is a shame to ask and show self "stupidity", but I never heard that name.

Regards.

[dullnboring]

Originally Posted by Om Bee

OK, OK....

Could somebody tell me who is Pol Pot?

Maybe it is a shame to ask and show self "stupidity", but I never heard that name.

Regards.

A former Cambodian dictator.

Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Om Bee]

Originally Posted by dullnboring

A former Cambodian dictator.

Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thank you. Well all dictators are really bad ju-ju.

Regards.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by Bunky39

hitler.
63 years ago took 2 giants usa and russia all they had to stop 1 lil country called germany at the cost of 25 million lives.
scary stuff
stephen s
san diego ca

He caught Russia with their pants down post revolution.
The US was being isolationist and still recovering from the depression.
France was inept....ditto for Poland...
England was having economic issues and was demilitarizing.

Basically, he got in a sucker punch....and then got his arse handed to him.
Hitler was one of the worst tacticians in the history of modern warfare.

You do recall what Hitlers plan was to deal with the US?
Hope they'd stay out of it.......

[AQUEMINI331]

Whoever said President Bush deserves to be on this list sorely needs a history lesson.



Bush is not even the worst U.S. president in history. Jackson wins that award (as mentioned earlier, he is solely responsible for the near-genocide of the Seminole peoples who were native to Florida). And he's on the $20 bill.



I am by NO means a conservative (I'm not religious, I'm not a Republican, I don't support the Iraq war, etc), BUT.......................Bush is not even close to being the worst leader of the 20th century.


I don't even know if he's the worst leader of this decade, let alone one of the worst the world has ever known. Lot of bad leaders all over this country and the world right now, as we speak.


With that being said, Hitler's got to be the obvious answer. Yes it's true that Hitler helped revitalize Germany's economy from severe depression in the 1930s. War usually stimulates the economy, you know because you can give people jobs by signing them up in the military or having them work in a factory where they make weapons designed to kill thousands of people. So yes, Hitler helped save Germany's economy.


And it's true that Hitler is the father of the American Interstate Highway System, not Eisenhower. Eisenhower took the idea for the U.S. Interstate from Hitler, who pioneered the autobahns of Germany. Of course, the reason why the autobahns were invented in the first place is so that troops could be transported from one location to another across Germany, so that Hitler and his troops could kill people faster and more efficiently. So yes, Hitler did help the United States in that sense, because without our modern day Interstate system, we wouldn't have the mobility that we do now, and our economy would not be as efficient as it is.



BUT.............................the fact that Hitler is responsible for the Holocaust, when 6 million Jews were literally extreminated, makes him the worst leader ever. That in and of itself puts him in the top spot. I wouldn't say Hitler is responsible for every death in World War II - it was a world war, the world shares responsibilty for that, and really the events of World War I and its aftermath are what really triggered World War II, so blame those 50 million deaths in WWII on the guy that killed the Archduke of Austria-Hungary in 1914 if you're going to blame it on any one person (he wasn't a leader though, just a random gunman).


In any case, I can't think of anyone else in history who is directly responsible for the murder of more people than Hitler, so he tops the list. But Stalin and Pol Pot aren't very far behind him.................


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