Cultural things that are seen as masculine/feminine in one country but not another. (living, castle)

[tvdxer]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Personally I've never heard of tea or yoghurt being feminine.

Yoghurt and tea aren't like playing with dolls or wearing your hair long and curly, things that society views as unacceptable for males. They are acceptable for males to consume, but they are marketed primarily to women.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Personally I've never heard of tea or yoghurt being feminine.

Maybe not, but it is typically marketed towards women, and often seems feminine to many people.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by tvdxer

Yoghurt and tea aren't like playing with dolls or wearing your hair long and curly, things that society views as unacceptable for males. They are acceptable for males to consume, but they are marketed primarily to women.

That is another point to bring up. It is acceptable for a man to eat yogurt. However, it isn't seen as a manly thing to eat. Stuff like steak is considered manly foods to eay. At least that is what I often see in the USA. In Argentina, steak is seen as something everyone eats, because it's a staple in Argentina, being one of the largest producers of beef in the world. Actually, it could depend on which part of the USA one might be in. I imagine steak might be seen as a food for everyone in Texas.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

That is another point to bring up. It is acceptable for a man to eat yogurt. However, it isn't seen as a manly thing to eat. Stuff like steak is considered manly foods to eay. At least that is what I often see in the USA. In Argentina, steak is seen as something everyone eats, because it's a staple in Argentina, being one of the largest producers of beef in the world. Actually, it could depend on which part of the USA one might be in. I imagine steak might be seen as a food for everyone in Texas.

Yes I mean while yoghurt might be associated with women and steak with men, in real life people don't like 'oh I won't eat that, that's a male/female food.' Women still eat steak and men still eat yoghurt without giving it a thought.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Yes I mean while yoghurt might be associated with women and steak with men, in real life people don't like 'oh I won't eat that, that's a male/female food.' Women still eat steak and men still eat yoghurt without giving it a thought.

True. As a kid I was always the one eating all of the yogurt. Same with tea. In fact, I'm brewing some green tea now.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

True. As a kid I was always the one eating all of the yogurt. Same with tea. In fact, I'm brewing some green tea now.

I assume the feminine/tea thing only applies to hot tea out of little tea cups?

Like I don't imagine cold iced tea is seen as feminine in the South, is it.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

I assume the feminine/tea thing only applies to hot tea out of little tea cups?

Like I don't imagine cold iced tea is seen as feminine in the South, is it.

Iced tea isn't considered feminine in the South. What I'm thinking of is some of the commercials I saw as a child.

[Stumbler.]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

Actually, I'm starting to notice a pattern here. Some things that are seen as feminine are often things that are more middle-upper class things and many things that are perceived as masculine are sometimes associated with the working class, at least in the USA.

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Europeans are just generally more sophisticated and refined so it would follow they do not see those things as 'feminine' but just cultured.

Well, a large part of that is that many things were associated with the aristocracy back in the UK/Europe/Old World, and USA never had an aristocracy.

Since American culture was shaped in part by wanting to leave behind the seen-as-antiquated and backward habits of the Old World and create a new society "from the ground up", many things associated with the old upper class were discarded.

In a sense, a lot of the things associated with aristocrats are associated with people who don't need to work with their hands, in the dirt etc. (eg. those who have time for fancy ceremonies, and clothing, unrelated to practical concerns) and that's another thing that would have been disdained in a country of pioneers/settlers in a new country like the United States.

Originally Posted by tvdxer

Female foods: Yogurt (again, from the marketing)

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Personally I've never heard of tea or yoghurt being feminine.

Originally Posted by tvdxer

Yoghurt and tea aren't like playing with dolls or wearing your hair long and curly, things that society views as unacceptable for males. They are acceptable for males to consume, but they are marketed primarily to women.

I've never drawn any association of tea with gender at all before reading posts in this thread. I associate it with culture but not gender.

I have though picked up on an association of yogurt with women but even that's something that I felt I noticed, or at least felt like I noticed recently, in particular because of the marketing of Activia brand yogurt (by the Danone company) towards women, as a health food. When I was younger, I don't think I picked up on any association.

[Mulhall]

I don't really associate many foods with gender, I associate some foods with specific cultures and some foods with obesity. I don't eat fast foods and I am a bit of a health food nut. In fact I am very picky about what I eat.

[irish_bob]

drinking beer out of a bottle instead of a pint glass is seen as somewhat feminine in ireland