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View Poll Results: Which country?
Australia 4 2.00%
Belgium 2 1.00%
Canada 42 21.00%
Denmark 3 1.50%
France 13 6.50%
Germany 10 5.00%
The Netherlands 36 18.00%
New Zealand 5 2.50%
Sweden 16 8.00%
Switzerland 5 2.50%
United Kingdom 13 6.50%
United States 51 25.50%
Voters: 200. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-30-2012, 04:03 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The National Team is not a club and doesn't buy players. It's formed with citizens of the country.
It's a bit more complicated. Here in Portugal we have several Brazilians in the national team. They got an express naturalization process so they can play in the national team. Some Portuguese people are not happy about that at all, but most don't seem to care as long as they score goals I assume it is similar in the Netherlands.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:37 PM
 
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We have gay wedding, prostitition on every level, porn, gambling, free abortion and gay couples can adopt kids.

...maybe . But try to talk to one of these nudist so called liberated females on the beach into a one night stand, chances are they will look at you with wide eyes like if you were Count Dracula...Decadence already existed in ancient Greece and Rome, our societies didn't invent it, calling it "tolerance" won't change the fact that human nature will never change...





I do not care about such things as nudity, string tangas, prostitution, gay wedding and legal pot as along as those things don't affect me personally, and I consider myself very conservative and I vote conservative parties.

Now, I hate lenience on criminal acts and urban guerrilla, and ultraliberal laws that always put criminals on top of citizens. I hate people drinking and smoking pot on the streets and unlatched dogs.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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Probably Thailand. You's be amazed at the riffraff they tolerate, as long as they bring money.
spend a week in a thai prison and come back to me
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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It's a bit more complicated. Here in Portugal we have several Brazilians in the national team. They got an express naturalization process so they can play in the national team. Some Portuguese people are not happy about that at all, but most don't seem to care as long as they score goals I assume it is similar in the Netherlands.
No, all our players were born in the Netherlands.
Many just have a foreign father/mother like from Morocco/Suriname.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Oh, please. LOL. This seems to be THE classic example on here. European clubs buy their players from all over the world. Everybody knows this. Especially from Africa. Using this as an example is absolutely misleading. I am sure you know this...

EUobserver.com / Headline News / Dutch far right opens anti-Polish hotline
Anti-immigrant website shames Netherlands | Presseurop (English)


They are also part of the Dutch government. And Geert Wilders is doing this there they should not let him do.

I don't mean to imply the NL is racist, but everybody thinks pot = liberal. It's not true.


I say it's us - United States.
NATIONAL DUTCH TEAM doesn't buy players, it's not a club!
You can only play for them if you have a Dutch passport.


the Netherlands was the first country in the world to allow same-sex marriage.

Same-sex marriage is still banned in 44 states in the USA, talking about Liberal.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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NATIONAL DUTCH TEAM doesn't buy players, it's not a club!
You can only play for them if you have a Dutch passport.


the Netherlands was the first country in the world to allow same-sex marriage.

Same-sex marriage is still banned in 44 states in the USA, talking about Liberal.
That's what I was saying, Netherlands has tolerance of gay marriage and drug but not for other races, diversity is seen very negatively and theres dicrimination toward blacks, arabs, ...
I know i lived there and its probably one of the reason why I moved to Canada.
Don't talk about the soccer teams, France national team is maybe 90% minorities, it didnt make France the most tolerant country ...
US has better acceptance of races but less regarding social issues, Canada has both , thats why I think Canada is the most tolerant.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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That's what I was saying, Netherlands has tolerance of gay marriage and drug but not for other races, diversity is seen very negatively and theres dicrimination toward blacks, arabs, ...
There is no discrimination against Blacks in the Netherlands! There is in the USA!

Arabs/North Africans are disliked by many but all for good reasons.
I lived here all my life, over 70% of the prisoners in the Netherlands is Arab/North African, I have seen in with my own eyes!
Friends of mine got gangraped/stabbed/robbed by Moroccans.
We don't have any problems with any race as long as they live by the Dutch rules and not some book that says gays, women and non-muslims have no rights.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I accidentally voted for the US when I meant to vote for the UK.

We are so incredibly tolerant of other races, cultures, sexual orientation does not matter at all to virtually anyone. I always hear people saying the UK is very tolerant so I'm surprised by the lack of votes and I'm genuinely surprised by the Netherlands. Same-sex marriage is not legalised here yet but will probably be legalised in 2015.

The only other countries on that list that scream 'tolerance' to me are the US and Canada. Scandinavia does not seem very tolerant to me, though Sweden puts up with A LOT of crap from minority groups (Malmo troubles!)
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:47 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Pretty much all these countries besides France
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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and I'm genuinely surprised by the Netherlands.
Surprised about what? That it didn't get more votes?
Should at least have 80% of them if you ask me!
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