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Old 05-21-2012, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Kamchatka, Russia
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Where in Siberia? Siberia's a big place.
You're not allowed to cheat--you can't look it up.

That's interesting that you said the Yukagirs are a type of Even. The Yukagirs borrowed some of their customs from the Evens, but they're not Evens (Tungusic). Until recently they were believed to be unrelated to any other people, but now it's said they're the most Eastern branch of the Samoyed people, they're distantly related to the Samoyeds (Entsy, Nentsy).
The Eastern part of Siberia, if I'm not mistaken even district and is called the Yukagir
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:12 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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udeghe - Live in the Amur., Khabarovsk, Primorsky Kray to be Honest I know about these peoples are not so many. It's all коряные peoples!!!!
You're right. The Ulchi are also on the Amur. The Yukagirs are on the north Kolyma River, in Yakutia, and there are some east of there, near the border with Kamchatka. haha, I knew you wouldn't know, that's why I asked.

Erasure is Russian, I think, he's not a "foreigner".
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Kamchatka, Russia
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On the maternal line I have in watching a lot of relatives (Barnaul, Novosibirsk) the other as in other parts of Russia. I have 13 brothers and sisters (relatives or friends) I'm not talking about all the other
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:16 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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When people returning from war are psychologically damaged for real, they already don't need psychologist, but most likely - psychiatrist.
I perfectly understand what Grey is talking about; invention of psychotherapy in Russia is yet another attempt to Americanize Russian culture.
For the culture that has individualism in its core, ( American culture in this case) it's only natural that a person has to pay in order to share its burden ( whatever emotional burden that can be,) but the culture that thrives on "communal," the share of emotional burden is naturally distributed among the others, where many are willing to share that burden.
Yeah, ok, a psychiatrist. Anyway, they need therapy.

This is an interesting explanation you give, but any kind of trauma is very serious, it requires a specialist. For example, when you're sick, you go to the doctor. No one accuses you of American individualism when you go to a doctor. So for illnesses of the mind, it's the same. Sometimes you need a psychiatrist of psychotherapist/psychologist. The reason it seems like a foreign idea is that the Soviet regime didn't believe such specialists were necessary, except in extreme cases. But the fact is that traditionally, Russians as well as Native people ( коренные народы) had healers, shamans, for this sort of thing. In that case, depending on the problem, the ritual would be individual, a private seance. In other cases, there would be a communal ritual, a collective ceremony.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Kamchatka, Russia
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You're right. The Ulchi are also on the Amur. The Yukagirs are on the north Kolyma River, in Yakutia, and there are some east of there, near the border with Kamchatka. haha, I knew you wouldn't know, that's why I asked.

Erasure is Russian, I think, he's not a "foreigner".
I know about some of them. The Koryaks, the Buryats, Kamchadals (evens-the Yukagirs) require
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:18 AM
 
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About what you said think will find if arriving in Russia. Welcome! sometimes even seems to me that foreigners are more about the Russian culture than we do.Thank you for the deep words, I hope it won't disappoint You!!!
You still think that I am a real foreigner, he-he?
Don't be confused, I used to be fourth generation of Moscovites in my *other* life, even though that "other life" feels so distant now...
(But I still miss those "conversation in the kitchen" and my old girl-friend still reminds me about them from time to time.)
Here is to prove you that I know what I am talking about; this happened to be my next door neighbor back in those times and my girl-friend used to be his wife)))



In memory of Anatoliy Krupnov - Ave Cesare - YouTube


Oh those famous kitchens in old Moscow communalkas, oh the long evenings and long "posidelki))))
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:19 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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It's been fun talking with you guys, but it's late. I need to go to bed. See you tomorrow.

The Kamchadals--they're called the Itelmen, now.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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I think Hollywood owes a LOT to Russia. If it wasn't for the Russians, the entire 1980s and 1990s would have never had a bad guy for their movies

In reality though, Russians have a tough life right now, it's not easy over there and I really do wish the best for them.. they are people who have been victims of crooks and bad governments for the last hundreds of years.

They're a cool nemesis though, and there are times I wish here in the United States would be a little tougher and have balls like the Russians.

I don't see any serious problems with Russia and America, we have our differences and we don't really like eachother but there is a mutual respect per say.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Kamchatka, Russia
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You still think that I am a real foreigner, he-he?
Don't be confused, I used to be fourth generation of Moscovites in my *other* life, even though that "other life" feels so distant now...
(But I still miss those "conversation in the kitchen" and my old girl-friend still reminds me about them from time to time.)
Here is to prove you that I know what I am talking about; this happened to be my next door neighbor back in those times and my girl-friend used to be his wife)))



In memory of Anatoliy Krupnov - Ave Cesare - YouTube


Oh those famous kitchens in old Moscow communalkas, oh the long evenings and long "posidelki))))
So you're a Russian emigrant or not? But Ruth4Truth - American? But to be honest I just amazed at his knowledge. I went to the American forum to destroy the myth that Americans are stupid. I thought I of the rights of the human mind does not depend on nationality or creed or color of skin!!!!
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Kamchatka, Russia
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It's been fun talking with you guys, but it's late. I need to go to bed. See you tomorrow.

The Kamchadals--they're called the Itelmen, now.
Yes You are right!!!!Calm night and sweet dreams!!!!
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