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Unread 06-06-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Fife
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Who puts London 5th on a list of international cities?? It isn't all about the % of residents born overseas, it is that plus diversity of population, universities, business, tourism, location etc, London is 1st, 2nd or at the VERY most 3rd.
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Unread 06-06-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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Who puts London 5th on a list of international cities?? It isn't all about the % of residents born overseas, it is that plus diversity of population, universities, business, tourism, location etc, London is 1st, 2nd or at the VERY most 3rd.
I believe you're referring to my list. That is to say, the list where I wrote IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER before I listed them...
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Unread 06-06-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Fife
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I apologise! I'll will read the full post in future lol.
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Unread 06-06-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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Not a problem Paul! I appreciate you coming back to apologize.

What about Santiago, Chile? I have heard that the city has a large Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Indian) population.
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Unread 06-06-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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I would put NYC first and London second. Los Angeles is also a very international city.
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Unread 06-06-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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^ I stand corrected about Amsterdam, then. I thought it wast still overwhelmingly Dutch, although I know parts of the Netherlands have visible concentrations of Turks.

I guess I'm too biased towards cities I've visited. Yes, international in all facets. It's kind of difficult to average out things like born overseas/international influence etc to give an overall score.
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Unread 06-07-2012, 05:41 AM
 
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new york
london
paris

tokyo
berlin
toronto
brussells = seat of european politics

amsterdam
hong kong
mumbai


sydney is 11th , its too isolated and not that politically important
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Unread 06-07-2012, 05:42 AM
 
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Who puts London 5th on a list of international cities?? It isn't all about the % of residents born overseas, it is that plus diversity of population, universities, business, tourism, location etc, London is 1st, 2nd or at the VERY most 3rd.
its 1st or 2nd depending on what kind of form the big apple is in
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Unread 06-07-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Sydney and Auckland are 37% and 39% born overseas respectively. Downtown Sydney is probably less than half Australian. Many parts of Sydney are more than 50% born overseas, same with Auckland.

The figures for Singapore shocked me. 20 years ago the vast majority of Singaporeans were native born. Now, it's something like 60%!

I highly doubt Sao Paulo is anything like that. I'm guessing it's less than 10% born overseas, and for it's size it's probably the LEAST international of the megacities, even less so than Tokyo, although within Brazil the people are mixed the culture is of course Brazilian not international.

Amsterdam might be well visited but residentially it's very Dutch.
Sao Paolo fits all of your criteria very well except for percentage of people born in a foreign country and linguistic diversity since much of its diversity is in second and third generation paulistanos. Also, in absolute numbers, Sao Paulo is huge. The expat community there is huge due to a lot of international corporations with regional headquarters set in Brazil and the Chinese, Korean, and adjacent Latin American countries seem to be migrating there in a pretty quick clip. Also, supposedly the huge economic downturn in many European countries has pushed economic migration into Sao Paulo again.

There's also a further subtlety with Brazil (as it is very much a developing country compared with the countries of the other cities) due to so many Brazilians having emigrated to Japan, the US, Canada, and Western Europe over the past few decades who are now returning (sometimes with families they've made abroad) in significant numbers and usually returning to either Sao Paulo or Rio.

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Unread 06-07-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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Since we're talking about foreign born population here are the cities with the largest foreign born population.

Cities/Regions With Largest Foreign Born Populations


1 New York City United States 5,117,290
2 Los Angeles United States 4,407,353
3 Hong Kong Hong Kong 2,549,780
4 Paris France 2,429,223[5]
5 Toronto Canada 2,320,200[6]
6 London United Kingdom 2,288,000[7]
7 Miami United States 1,949,629
8 Chicago United States 1,625,649
9 Sydney Australia 1,235,908
10 San Francisco United States 1,201,209
11 Moscow Russia 1,128,035
12 Houston United States 1,113,875
13 Dubai United Arab Emirates 1,056,000
14 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 1,054,000
15 Washington D.C. United States 1,017,432
16 Dallas United States 1,016,221


Cities/Regions With Highest Percentage of Foreign Born Population


1 Dubai United Arab Emirates 82%
2 Miami United States 51%
3 Amsterdam Netherlands 47%
4 Toronto Canada 45%
5 Muscat Oman 44.6%
6 Singapore Singapore 43%
7 Vancouver Canada 39.02%
8 Auckland New Zealand 39%
9 Geneva Switzerland 39.37%
10 Mecca Saudi Arabia 37.75%

Foreign born - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



However, I don't think that just foreign born population makes a city international as paul805 pointed out.

Most international

1. New York

2. London

3. Paris
4. Tokyo

5. Los Angeles
6. Hong Kong
7. Brussels
8. Singapore
9. Washington DC

10. Sydney
Chicago
Toronto
San Francisco
Amsterdam
Madrid
Frankfurt
Barcelona
Vienna
Miami
Boston
Berlin
Zurich
Beijing
Mexico City

etc

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