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View Poll Results: Choose the cities with the top public transportation systems:
Amsterdam 10 34.48%
Berlin 18 62.07%
Boston 8 27.59%
Chicago 10 34.48%
Hamburg 7 24.14%
Munich 11 37.93%
Philadelphia 4 13.79%
San Francisco 7 24.14%
Vienna 7 24.14%
Washington, DC 8 27.59%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-03-2012, 10:16 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Most people will probably agree that London, New York City and Paris have the best public transportation systems in Europe and the U.S. But what about the 2nd tier cities that are not megacities yet?

Amsterdam

Berlin

Boston

Chicago

Hamburg

Munich

Philadelphia

San Francisco

Vienna

Washington, DC


Compare the comprehensiveness and efficiencies of rapid transit trains, underground trains (metro), light rail (trams/trolleys/street cars), bus service, water transport, etc.

Choose as many options as you like. Please explain your choices.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I picked Amsterdam, Boston, Hamburg, Munich, and D.C
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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San Francisco has a great public transportation system and definitely one does not need a car to get around the city easily.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Nesconset, NY
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
Most people will probably agree that London, New York City and Paris have the best public transportation systems in Europe and the U.S. But what about the 2nd tier cities that are not megacities yet?

Amsterdam

Berlin

Boston

Chicago

Hamburg

Munich

Philadelphia

San Francisco

Vienna

Washington, DC


Compare the comprehensiveness and efficiencies of rapid transit trains, underground trains (metro), light rail (trams/trolleys/street cars), bus service, water transport, etc.

Choose as many options as you like. Please explain your choices.
Wouldn't this poll require extensive experience with public transport in all of these cities in order to compare? Either CD users are much more travelled than I or very few CD users can participate in the poll.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:50 PM
 
Location: London, NYC, DC
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San Francisco has a great public transportation system and definitely one does not need a car to get around the city easily.
Hate it to break it to you, but Muni is ridiculously and notoriously slow, inefficient, and antiquated. It's not integrated with BART, which is of limited use within the city proper, meanwhile most of its routes are circuitous or not particularly useful. Where lines are useful, they're inordinately packed, and this is coming from someone who uses the US' busiest subway line every day (the 4/5/6 in NYC). The infrastructure exists, but Muni and the City of San Francisco seem to squander its potential.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:09 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
Most people will probably agree that London, New York City and Paris have the best public transportation systems in Europe and the U.S. But what about the 2nd tier cities that are not megacities yet?

Amsterdam

Berlin

Boston

Chicago

Hamburg

Munich

Philadelphia

San Francisco

Vienna

Washington, DC


Compare the comprehensiveness and efficiencies of rapid transit trains, underground trains (metro), light rail (trams/trolleys/street cars), bus service, water transport, etc.

Choose as many options as you like. Please explain your choices.
All of the European selections are really good with Berlin having an especially outsized system which seems far larger than a city of its population size needs. The S-Bahn and U-Bahn dual system that many of the European cities have is also a really good idea. For the US picks, DC is fairly good within the city especially for its size as its efficient and interlined (a bit like a S-Bahn system) and still going through expansion. Chicago's system is pretty good (though a bit small in relation to the huge size of the Chicago metro) except for adhering too strongly to a spoke and hub model where all lines and transfers basically have to pass through the center. Another issue with Chicago is that some of the outdoor elevated platforms are pretty miserable during the winter. Philadelphia, Boston, and SF are great in the context of the US, but are pretty bad in comparison to the German cities and Vienna.

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San Francisco has a great public transportation system and definitely one does not need a car to get around the city easily.
For a city/metro of its size, wealth, and density, SF has an awful public transportation system. The MUNI Metro is incredibly inefficient (way too many stops) and is not grade-separated for quite a bit of its length. It also seems to have an amazing knack for delays and disruptions. BART is a better system, but it has so few stops within the city that its virtually useless as anything but a commuter rail. Having cable cars and ferries are cool though.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I can only speak from experience of Boston, DC and Vienna. But DC and Vienna both have decent systems. Boston is passable.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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PT is great everywhere in europe. it's really no comparison.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:51 PM
 
Location: The Present
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Berlin absolutely kills the rest of the cities on this list.

As OyCrumbler mentioned (+1 btw), The US cities that were mentioned, in the context of the us they are great for PT but they can't really compare to the European one's mentioned.

SF's system could be a lot better considering how dense the city is. The BART is cool but it's too expensive unless your taking it within SF city limits. I also find the bart to be pretty dirty as well, I don't like those cloth seats because they always look filthy.

I think the interesting thing about Philly's system is, if you find the old tram maps you can see how the BSB basically acted as a feeder line to pump people to Center City.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:45 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I'm not surprised that Berlin has gotten the most votes in the poll. In my previous thread comparing just European cities, Berlin was tied with Paris:

Which European cities have the best public transportation? (Multiple choice)
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