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Unread 07-09-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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Default What are the best places to live internationally for studying abroad in college and related to my future career?

Title continued: How is the process for that?

I would like to be aware how other people were able to live in different countries internationally, especially based on what they were studying in college, and their careers. I assume certain types of life situations can make it easier for some people to move around more frequently than others.

This is basically a topic for people to describe their experiences for where they lived internationally and how they were able to make that happen in their lives. This is also about how I would be able to do that personally and knowing more the practical actions related to that.

I lived in the USA my entire life in Seattle and New York City. I enjoy and am interested in plenty of other countries while also enjoying and being interested in the USA.

I recently turned 21 years old and I am in the early to mid parts of my college years. I am majoring in Architecture and getting a minor in Environmental Studies. My future career plans is to become an Architect. I have lots of confidence for my current career plans and what I am studying in college, but I still have some back up career plans.

If I study abroad in another country, that would happen in the next year to 2 years.

If I lived internationally based on my future career after getting a college degree, that would most likely be able to occur 6 to 10 years later, after a few years of having my career based in the USA at first.

Most of the countries I enjoy the most and have the most interest for are plenty of European, and Asian countries, other than Australia and Canada. These are all of the countries related to that (not in any order of preferences): France, UK/England, Switzerland, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Austria, Spain, Norway, China, Japan, Thailand, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, India, Singapore.
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Unread 07-09-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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Try to find a country where architects are in demand. Brazil is booming and they don't have too skilled of a work force, maybe check it out? Canada also likes skilled immigrants, so does Switzerland (but I don't know if architects are in demand). I'm sorry I'm not so useful, but hopefully it's a good start. Good luck .
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Unread 07-14-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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I am surprised there weren’t any more responses yet. I guess it is asking for a lot.

Also, the people that lived internationally and know the process for that, including related to studying abroad in college and for career reasons, probably did not see this topic yet.

I am still glad I created this thread topic since I find it important and fascinating.

It is also now in my extensive thread topics started history and it is nice to still see this contained there.
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Unread 07-14-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Try to find a country where architects are in demand. Brazil is booming and they don't have too skilled of a work force, maybe check it out? Canada also likes skilled immigrants, so does Switzerland (but I don't know if architects are in demand). I'm sorry I'm not so useful, but hopefully it's a good start. Good luck .
It is a good start. Thank you for the response.

I have no interest to live in Brazil, especially not for studying abroad in college or for my future career. Brazil would only be for visiting.

Canada is great but I already went to Canada 4 times and I want more of an exotic, further away, less familiar adventure, so it is not high up on my preferences right now for studying abroad/or future career. Canada is noticeably different from the USA but it still has lots of similarities.

However, if I was given an easy opportunity to move to that country such as in Montreal, Vancouver, or Toronto, I probably would still not turn down the offer.

Switzerland appears to be a good option and I do see the intrigue and appeal for it. However, there is some other European countries I prefer to experience more before Switzerland.

That is true that I should focus on the countries that have the highest demand for architecture.

I highlighted the countries on my list that probably have the highest supply and demand for architecture careers:
France, UK/England, Switzerland, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Austria, Spain, Norway, China, Japan, Thailand, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, India, Singapore, Canada, Australia.

I enjoy the USA while enjoying plenty of other countries, so I do have lots of interest for international living.

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Unread 07-14-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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It is very hard for an American to get a work permit/visa for European Union countries (France, UK/England, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Austria, Spain, Norway). Even Switzerland which is not technically part of the EU, I have heard it is very difficult for a foreigner to get a work permit/visa. So I would suggest that you focus on the other countries in your list.
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Unread 07-14-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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It is very hard for an American to get a work permit/visa for European Union countries (France, UK/England, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Austria, Spain, Norway). Even Switzerland which is not technically part of the EU, I have heard it is very difficult for a foreigner to get a work permit/visa. So I would suggest that you focus on the other countries in your list.
Norway is not an EU member but a member of the Schengen Treaty.
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Unread 07-16-2012, 12:39 AM
 
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That is true that I should focus on the countries that have the highest demand for architecture.

I highlighted the countries on my list that probably have the highest supply and demand for architecture careers:
France, UK/England, Switzerland, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Austria, Spain, Norway, China, Japan, Thailand, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, India, Singapore, Canada, Australia.

I enjoy the USA while enjoying plenty of other countries, so I do have lots of interest for international living.
You want somewhere more exotic? Asia and Australia are definitely the places to be.

Among those Asian countries you listed, Vietnam and India probably have the greatest potential for aspiring architects to thrive in the long term. They are after all up and coming developing nations.
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Unread 07-17-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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Title continued: How is the process for that?

I would like to be aware how other people were able to live in different countries internationally, especially based on what they were studying in college, and their careers. I assume certain types of life situations can make it easier for some people to move around more frequently than others.

This is basically a topic for people to describe their experiences for where they lived internationally and how they were able to make that happen in their lives. This is also about how I would be able to do that personally and knowing more the practical actions related to that.

I lived in the USA my entire life in Seattle and New York City. I enjoy and am interested in plenty of other countries while also enjoying and being interested in the USA.

I recently turned 21 years old and I am in the early to mid parts of my college years. I am majoring in Architecture and getting a minor in Environmental Studies. My future career plans is to become an Architect. I have lots of confidence for my current career plans and what I am studying in college, but I still have some back up career plans.

If I study abroad in another country, that would happen in the next year to 2 years.

If I lived internationally based on my future career after getting a college degree, that would most likely be able to occur 6 to 10 years later, after a few years of having my career based in the USA at first.

Most of the countries I enjoy the most and have the most interest for are plenty of European, and Asian countries, other than Australia and Canada. These are all of the countries related to that (not in any order of preferences): France, UK/England, Switzerland, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Austria, Spain, Norway, China, Japan, Thailand, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, India, Singapore.
Unfortunately your question is far too broad for anyone to answer effectively. Every country has their own requirements for residency. Some allow you to study/attend school but don't allow you to stay past this time frame. I know it sounds daunting, but you'll want to look up each individual country's immigration policy. Generally speaking, European countries seem far more difficult in terms of being able to remain.

Some people are able to live abroad because they have a much needed skill (like some specialized tech knowledge or skill, etc) and some company recruits them. Sometimes they work for a company that is globalized and are able to transfer over through this route while they have this position. Some people are able to move abroad because they have dual citizenship through a parent, grandparent or are married to someone with citizenship.

Also, which may benefit you is to study abroad, get a job in your field part time..perhaps an apprenticeship/intern type gig, and then get sponsored by the company to be allowed to stay (don't quote me on this though since I might have it all wrong!) Hopefully this info helps a little!
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Unread 07-30-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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It is very hard for an American to get a work permit/visa for European Union countries (France, UK/England, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Austria, Spain, Norway). Even Switzerland which is not technically part of the EU, I have heard it is very difficult for a foreigner to get a work permit/visa. So I would suggest that you focus on the other countries in your list.
I thought some of those European countries were easier than that with a foreigner work permit/visa, especially with certain types of desirable easy to transfer careers (such as Architecture), and high professional credentials/qualifications.

For studying abroad in college with one of those locations, I assume that is much easier compared to someone moving for a career with a foreign work permit/visa. Also true for retirement but I am only 21 years old so that is not something to think about yet.

Someone can also get residency rather easily with another country if they marry someone from that country. Being 21 years old is still a few years too young for marrying, but I could look for a wife within a few years with connections to one of my favorite international countries.

That is not the only reason to go out with someone, but I usually prefer women that are those nationalities/ethnicities with those countries.

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Unread 07-30-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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You want somewhere more exotic? Asia and Australia are definitely the places to be.

Among those Asian countries you listed, Vietnam and India probably have the greatest potential for aspiring architects to thrive in the long term. They are after all up and coming developing nations.
Parts of Europe is still foreign/exotic to me, but parts of Asia does appear more foreign/exotic. I overall equally enjoy Europe and Asia, so that is why I said many countries for both of those continental regions.

That is true that India and Vietnam are some of the countries with the best potential for aspiring architects to thrive in the long term because of the rapid population and economic growth. Also valid for China, and Thailand.

For a career with that and creating actual new buildings/projects, some areas of Europe is having stagnant population/economic growth and not much available land, which is not as conducive for architecture careers.

However, there must be some European countries and areas of it that still have booming vibrant population/economic growth, with enough available land.

For studying abroad to another country with some of the rest of college, that is more easier and possible to occur with a higher amount of those countries that I said earlier.

By the way, you said in another thread topic that you are going from Singapore to Vancouver Canada to live there within a few months. That is a fascinating, intellectually stimulating, and exciting move to make.

How did you establish the move and everything related to that with Singapore to Vancouver Canada?

Also, are you a native ethnic Singaporean that lived there most of your life or a foreigner that moved to Singapore briefly?

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