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Old 09-30-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Anyone from Sweden,Norway or denmark please Help.

Can any one break down the college and up degrees I want to practice medicine in one of those countries but I'm so confuse. I'm a freshman in college. Should I finish my undergradurate in the US or transfer Can you break down the process. I already know everything about the visas
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:20 AM
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Don't worry so much about the specific degrees, as you will need to go through a certification process in Scandinavia anyway.
Finish your undergraduate work in the US, then work with your chosen US med school to get a year as an exchange student (medical or otherwise) in Scandinavia (email them and ask if they offer that opportunity before you enroll, obviously). This will provide you with a better base for deciding whether to move here more permanently.

Note that medical work in Scandinavia pays somewhat less than what it does in the US, and in Norway the government may recquire you to work in specific (usually remote)areas for a certain time before you're allowed to choose your place of occupation. Also, healthcare in Scandinavia is mostly a government controlled activity, so you can't always expect to set up a practice anywhere you please.

Hope that helps a bit
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:27 PM
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I'm not so sure about how it works, comming from another country and study in Sweden (I've never done that obviously) so I cannot give you any hard core facts or advice about it. I do however know someone I can ask about that, so I'll be back to you when he's let me know.

I found a link to Swedish colleges/universities in English that might be helpful in case you want too see what we have to offer
ESTIA in Sweden - Education/Information for foreign students

Norgy is right that we don't pay as much in the Scandinavian countries as they do in the US, but in return...you won't get sued here
Norway pays more than Sweden does (that's why many of our nurses moves there when graduating) but Sweden won't decide where you're going to work in the same extent as Norway will.
And even if we pay less... we pay good. So do not worry about that.

I think you would be better off if you took your undergraduate in the US (how's Alaska, by the way?) and then came over here, but again, I'm not sure. I'll check with my doctor- aquaintance.

Hope you'll find what you're looking for If you decide to come for a visit, I'd love to show you around!
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:48 PM
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Hello again!
I've received an answer from my doctor-aquaintance (he says you are free to ask anything, so if you have any more questions -which, you most cerainly do of course - you can just PM me) today, and here's what he had to say:

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It takes 4,4 - 5,5 years to become a doctor in Sweden, depending on what degree you chose.
The best option is to get the undergraduate in the USA and then get the education validated in Sweden. This can save up to 6 months or so, compared to trying to relocate to Sweden and get the graduate here.
As an AT you make about 18- 19 000 kronor/month (which is about 2719 - 2870 US dollars), and when you are done and a certified doctor you make between 35 and 50 000 kronor/month (about 5287 to 7553 US dollars)
I'm not that familiar with the doctor-education, so I don't know to what help that was. What do you want to study exactly?
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:29 AM
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I would suggest not moving to Sweden if you're a young adult who need to have a career. Salaries are low and cost of living is high. Sweden is good for raising small kids in a relatively safe and clean environment. It's also good for retired people. It's not ideal for people inbetween.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:11 PM
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I would suggest not moving to Sweden if you're a young adult who need to have a career. Salaries are low and cost of living is high. Sweden is good for raising small kids in a relatively safe and clean environment. It's also good for retired people. It's not ideal for people inbetween.
Actually, Sweden has the highest standard of living in the world along with Japan, so I wouldn't call it a bad country to live in.
And it's not "relatively" clean, since Sweden is the cleanest country in the world and has even received prices for it. Sure, I won't lie and tell you that the taxes aren't bad (the highest in the world) but you also get a whole lot back through different services.
And salaries for doctors are most certainly not low, trust me on that!

No country is perfect, but Sweden is in the top of very many of the most important scales. Democracy, standard of living, etc.

Ladyscorpian, how are you doing? Are you still planning a move or what's new?
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Actually, Sweden has the highest standard of living in the world along with Japan, so I wouldn't call it a bad country to live in.
Iceland and Norway are 1 and 2 according to the most recent U.N. Human Development Index. Australia, Canada and Ireland placed 3, 4 and 5. Sweden is number 6 on the list. Japan ranked 8, after Switzerland. The U.S. came in number 12, following Netherlands, France and Finland.

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When talking about different countries it is important to think about that we all have different tastes and different expectations.
I think Scandinavia is a very good place for people “in between” . I live in central Virginia and when I compare the amount of fun, exiting and interesting activities a young professional can do in Stockholm compared to HERE, well it is depressing. Sure Stockhom is not NYC, London or San Francisco but it is a much more active and interesting place then the average US town or smaller city.
(I would say this goes for all the lager places in Scandinavia, Oslo, Copenhagen, Gothenburg etc, etc).

It is true that most doctors work for the state; however there are plenty of private practices. The pay is lesser, but they you do not need malpractice insurance. The taxes, are of course higher.
Anyhow, I would recommend you to spend some time as a tourist or visit Sweden before you move.
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Iceland and Norway are 1 and 2 according to the most recent U.N. Human Development Index. Australia, Canada and Ireland placed 3, 4 and 5. Sweden is number 6 on the list. Japan ranked 8, after Switzerland. The U.S. came in number 12, following Netherlands, France and Finland.

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Don't quote me on this but...isn't it near impossible for a person "not" born in Iceland...to move and live there? Seems like I've heard that somewhere.
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...isn't it near impossible for a person "not" born in Iceland...to move and live there? Seems like I've heard that somewhere.
It's also my impression that Iceland can be difficult for "outsiders." Don't know first hand, but I've heard that about both Iceland and Japan. The conclusion seems to be something about an insular mentality of island nations' people. Hope I don't offend anyone from Iceland of Japan, here. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I've lived in two countries and in both cases very close to one or more international borders, so I have no idea what it's like to be a native of some place isolated by big oceans. But I digress. Getting off topic. Sorry.
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