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But Canadians on average live longer than Americans don't they?
But is that solely due to the style of healthcare system their country has, or other factors? Diet, drug use, lifestyle, obesity, cultural factors?
Australians live even longer than either Americans or Canadians. So if it's all due to healthcare systems, then the Australian system is better. My experience of it certainly was.
Actually, people who can afford to pay for procedures do flock to the US, if they can't wait the 6 months for an important procedure, but there aren't that many cases, especially involving people who can pay rather than wait. Doctors have been abandoning Canada for the US in significant numbers, because the US pays more, especially for those who offer specialized care. And there's some kind of issue regarding regulation of Canadian health care that is burdensome to doctors, though it's hard to imagine it's worse than the control insurance companies have over doctors' practices in the US.
I'm hoping someone can find some articles to post, especially one that gives the doctors' view. On the whole I haven't heard many complaints from Canadian friends about the system, but most of my friends are healthy and don't need doctors. i don't think the Canadian system has been studied thoroughly enough in the US.
Well, they sure don't flock to the USA is very large numbers. Stats Canada reports that the total number of Canadaians that have EVER had medical care in the USA is .2% of the population. That's a pretty small flock.
My son and his wife are both specialists in Canada. They get letters weekly begging them to move to the USA. My son tells me they would as a couple make over a million a year in the USA. He says, 6-$700,000 is good enough for him. Also he says, "I'm a trauma specialist and my least favourite paitient is the gunshot victim, in USA emergency medicine there are far to many of those for me"!!!
Canadians aren't needing to go to the US for treatment because private clinics are proliferating in Canada. So they stay home to get the care they need, paying for their treatment themselves.
Canadians aren't needing to go to the US for treatment because private clinics are proliferating in Canada. So they stay home to get the care they need, paying for their treatment themselves.
So the problems in the Canadian system are being addressed by private clinics. This is what has been going on in some European countries all along, since the 60's, at least. It's happening in the US, too; people with chronic health issues have to pay a small fortune to see a doc outside the insurance system because the insurance-based doctors simply refuse to take them on as patients. There's got to be a better way to run a public health system.
Canadians aren't needing to go to the US for treatment because private clinics are proliferating in Canada. So they stay home to get the care they need, paying for their treatment themselves.
Proliferating? "Bull Manure they are. What % of Canadians do you think go to private clinics for treatment? .1% maybe?????
They use the word "explosive growth" when describing private clinics opening in Canada, especially Quebec, perhaps a bit sensationalist. "They" being the CMAJ - Canadian Medical Association Journal. Despite what we may feel about them, they are here, people are using them. Maybe not huge numbers but enough to keep these clinics busy. Friend of mine in Kelowna says the First Nations band there are planning to build a private hospital on their land, outside the Medicare system. Good for them.
The Canadian system seems too socialist for me and the American system is becoming that way so I vote neither are better than each other.
I suppose you must think that public schools and libraries are also too socialist. I suggest not driving on publc roads in future and don't bother calling the fire brigade if your house catches fire, because those things are also too socialist.
They use the word "explosive growth" when describing private clinics opening in Canada, especially Quebec, perhaps a bit sensationalist. "They" being the CMAJ - Canadian Medical Association Journal. Despite what we may feel about them, they are here, people are using them. Maybe not huge numbers but enough to keep these clinics busy. Friend of mine in Kelowna says the First Nations band there are planning to build a private hospital on their land, outside the Medicare system. Good for them.
It's a misrepresentation by ommision. People reading this will get the wrong idea about these "Private Clinics" In 99% of the cases, WHO pays the bill when you attend one of these "Private clinics? It's the provincial healthcare system who pays that's who. IT DOES NOT MAKE A SINGLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE TO ME WEATHER THE LOCAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM OWNS THE HOSPITAL OR JOHN DOE DOES. It's the delivery and the cost of healthcare that is the issue.
If I had a hernia I would only go to the shouldice clinic in Toronto to have it reparied. They are the best in the world. The Ontario healthcare plan would pay for it so why would I care who actually owns the place. I would predict that if they raised their fees way above what OHIP would pay they would have very few customers.
The Canadian system seems too socialist for me and the American system is becoming that way so I vote neither are better than each other.
The effect of private insurance companies in the US rationing care is the same as any government health system doing the same. Americans don't realize they've had rationed care for generations now. Where the savings would lie is in eliminating the profit private insurers make. Insurance companies should be not-for-profit, if there are to be any at all, vs. a "single-payer program", a gov't health care plan as in other countries.
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