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Old 08-08-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: NC
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I've been a first hand witness to numerous heinous acts of plant cruelty committed by vegetarians all over this world. The heartbreaking wrenching of tender, young buds of fruit from the hands of their dear mother trees , the cold, vicious chopping, slicing and dicing of harvest vegetables - often times leaving hundreds, even thousands of dead left lying behind along cold dirt paths , the cruel choking and yanking of hopeful root vegetables out of their safe, secure burrow cribs ...I can go on, but I know that some posters come to these forums with children and I don't want to get too graphic.

These vast gruesome acts of heartless cruelty goes on in every corner of this globe...and yet only the brave few - I, being one of them, stand up to fight for our botanical brothers and sisters. It truly, truly shocks the conscience.

 
Old 08-08-2012, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Strathclyde & Málaga
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I've been a first hand witness to numerous heinous acts of plant cruelty committed by vegetarians all over this world. The heartbreaking wrenching of tender, young buds of fruit from the hands of their dear mother trees , the cold, vicious chopping, slicing and dicing of harvest vegetables - often times leaving hundreds, even thousands of dead left lying behind along cold dirt paths , the cruel choking and yanking of hopeful root vegetables out of their safe, secure burrow cribs ...I can go on, but I know that some posters come to these forums with children and I don't want to get too graphic.

These vast gruesome acts of heartless cruelty goes on in every corner of this globe...and yet only the brave few - I, being one of them, stand up to fight for our botanical brothers and sisters. It truly, truly shocks the conscience.

You poor dear
 
Old 08-08-2012, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Yes that's awful and it's a good thing I leave vegetables out of my diet.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Burlington, Colorado
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My dog is like a child to me. I couldn't eat dog. I'd have to be starving on the verge of death to even consider it.
And that is fine... but I never understood why the fact that someone else has an emotional attachment to a certain type of animal should dictate what others can do with that type of animal. What if I said my calf is like a child to me, I couldn't eat a cow, I'd have to be starving to even consider it... should you now not be allowed to eat a hamburger? II can shoot a coon that is causing problems on my property, but I can't shoot my own dog if hes dying. I can raise chickens, calfs, goats, elk, squirrells, etc. to kill and eat, but I can't do so with a dog, cat, horse. I'm not saying I should be able to eat your dog.. but why do you care what I do with mine? What is the real reason for this? Biologically they are all animals, its only because more people are emotionally attached to certain animals.

Its ridiculous if you really stop and think about it. If you disagree... why? Is it more than just because you have an emotional attachment to an animal of the same type? If you think that is a good enough reason.. then how many people have to have emotional attachments to chickens or cows before you shouldn't be allowed to eat them?
 
Old 08-08-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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And that is fine... but I never understood why the fact that someone else has an emotional attachment to a certain type of animal should dictate what others can do with that type of animal. What if I said my calf is like a child to me, I couldn't eat a cow, I'd have to be starving to even consider it... should you now not be allowed to eat a hamburger? II can shoot a coon that is causing problems on my property, but I can't shoot my own dog if hes dying. I can raise chickens, calfs, goats, elk, squirrells, etc. to kill and eat, but I can't do so with a dog, cat, horse. I'm not saying I should be able to eat your dog.. but why do you care what I do with mine? What is the real reason for this? Biologically they are all animals, its only because more people are emotionally attached to certain animals.

Its ridiculous if you really stop and think about it. If you disagree... why? Is it more than just because you have an emotional attachment to an animal of the same type? If you think that is a good enough reason.. then how many people have to have emotional attachments to chickens or cows before you shouldn't be allowed to eat them?
Let me stop you right there. Please quote the portion of my post where I said that I am allowed to dictate the dietary choices of others.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Socialist Scandinavia
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But I find dogs to be ugly and cows/pigs to be cute! What then?

BTW, I am vegetarian, so I don't support killing of any animal, and just find it weird that most people have no problem raising chickens/pigs/cows in cruel conditions and then eating them, but make a huge outcry about doing the same with dogs. Pure hypocrisy!
You my friend are authorized to kill a baby panda.

But what would you rather kill?
Mr. cutie pie here


Or this ugly bastard



You know, all this reminds of that tv show, Whale Wars, where a bunch of fools sail to the antarctica to save a few whales by ramming other ships; because god forbid if a whale died. However, ramming other ships in arctic waters and endagering other people lives is ok, because then it is just humans who suffer.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Ewgh I don't think I could do that its disgusting.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Burlington, Colorado
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Let me stop you right there. Please quote the portion of my post where I said that I am allowed to dictate the dietary choices of others.
I was talking in more general terms.... if you are ok with others eating dog, great... I am not talking to you then, but I don't think you can argue that most who think of their dog being their child would oppose other people being able to eat dogs/cats, otherwise it wouldn't be illegal here.

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You my friend are authorized to kill a baby panda.

But what would you rather kill?
Mr. cutie pie here
..
Or this ugly bastard
I really hope you aren't suggesting we base what animals is ok and not ok to kill and eat based on how cute they are?!
 
Old 08-08-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Socialist Scandinavia
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I really hope you aren't suggesting we base what animals is ok and not ok to kill and eat based on how cute they are?!
Note to self: make sarcasm more obvious... My point is that the world unfortunately is like that.
 
Old 08-09-2012, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Alderwood, Washington State
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isn't it true that dogs have a closer relationship of companionship with the humans that is different from those of nearly all other creatures? it's been cultivated for a few hundred thousand years, maybe longer.

dogs guard people, fight to protect them, aide the disabled and infirm, assist in the acquisition of food, and provide companionship - if it were another person doing these things, I'd call that person a friend - and I don't eat my friends, who would do such a thing? it's unnatural in this case
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