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Old 08-16-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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African and Native American. By african I don't mean all black either.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: West Coast
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African Americans, Native Americans, Jewish, Armenians, South Africans, Africans under Belgium rule, Rwandans, and Gypsy people have some of the most tragic histories. There are many many more of course, but those are the ones that came to mind first.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:05 PM
 
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collective groups do not have bad luck , only individuals do , not all jews , africans , irish , poles , chineese , english , cubans , iraqis , are or were unlucky
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:37 PM
 
Location: West Coast
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collective groups do not have bad luck , only individuals do , not all jews , africans , irish , poles , chineese , english , cubans , iraqis , are or were unlucky
An ethnic group is a collective unit. An individual is an individual. This thread is about the collective. Native Americans were not removed from their land one by one. They were removed as collective groups. Also, the reason whey the transatlantic slave trade was so profitable was because entire villages (collective groups) were marched to or taken from the West Coast of Africa, and then shipped off to the Americas. Africans and Europeans both made money from this tragedy. Also, the attempted genocide of the Native American, Armenian and Jewish people was done on a collective basis.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The Ainu people from the Northern islands of Japan.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:28 PM
 
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Poles. Imagine being overrun and pushed around by Germans and Russians back and forth for centuries. That would suck.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:23 PM
 
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I would have to say African people. Jews were slaughtered by Hitler, an estimate of six-million lost their lives but that's no where near the amount of Africans that died on the slave ships (80-100 million) to be precise. Even to this very day, most black Americans don't know who they really are and what greatness they've come from.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I would have to say African people. Jews were slaughtered by Hitler, an estimate of six-million lost their lives but that's no where near the amount of Africans that died on the slave ships (80-100 million) to be precise. Even to this very day, most black Americans don't know who they really are and what greatness they've come from.
Don't be ridiculous, you're talking about an era when there were WAY less people in the world. The population of the Unites States in the 1840 census was 12,866,020 people, so I doubt six times the population of the United States died in the slave trade, there probably weren't even that many people in the whole of Africa. Between 1650-1900 a total of 10.24 million Africans arrived in the Americas (Lovejoy, Paul E. Transformations in Slavery. Cambridge University Press, 2000). So that's the US, all the Carribean countries, Brazil, Guyana etc... Sure people lots of people died on the boats and this was a terrible crime against humanity, but I highly doubt that 7 out of every 8 people put on the boat died, that's much too high a number to b believable.
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:08 PM
 
Location: West Coast
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Don't be ridiculous, you're talking about an era when there were WAY less people in the world. The population of the Unites States in the 1840 census was 12,866,020 people, so I doubt six times the population of the United States died in the slave trade, there probably weren't even that many people in the whole of Africa. Between 1650-1900 a total of 10.24 million Africans arrived in the Americas (Lovejoy, Paul E. Transformations in Slavery. Cambridge University Press, 2000). So that's the US, all the Carribean countries, Brazil, Guyana etc... Sure people lots of people died on the boats and this was a terrible crime against humanity, but I highly doubt that 7 out of every 8 people put on the boat died, that's much too high a number to b believable.
You do realize they were ships right? Ship after ship after ship, and on and on for centuries.
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Burnsville, Minnesota
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Native Americans
Africans/African Americans
Gypsies
Jews
Irish Americans
Italian Americans
Japanese Americans
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